Custom screws

[daught]

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I might need some custom screws machined. The original screws that come with these bindings were described to me as "The ti plate that sits under the heel is held down by special barrel screws. Short threaded part, barrel section, wide t-top. " I want to use these bindings with M5 threaded inserts, but the original screws have a wood thread. I need M5 screws with the flat head in the picture and barel section that matches the groove in the titanium plate. Can it be done?

 

[Justind97]

Go to any ski shop. They'll have what you need.

 

[daught]

No, they wont. These screws are unique to tyrolia AT bindings. Most shops in Ontario dont even know what AT is. Binding manufacturers make their screws for wood not M5. I need M5s to use quiver killer inserts to move my bindings between my east coast skis and west coast skis.

 

[Boom King]

Could you not order screws from Quiver Killer and have them work? Otherwise I'm thinking going to a place like Brafasco although I'm not sure what a minimum order would be and how costly it'd come out to.

 

[daught]

Nope, they offer flathead, small flatheads (both have a tapered bottom) and button heads which have a rounded head.
Most non AT bindings use the these flatheads:

Tyrolia screws are flat on both sides. Kind of like

This is a huge buzzkill because these bindings are very unique and have awesome fetures compared to the duke and guardians.

 

[crankcall]

Is there enough meat to allow you to just rethread a tyrolia woodthread into an M5? Hard to even find tyrolia bindings for sale around here, all the new skiis having the "system" bindings.

How current is the tyrolia Elan in the picture?

 

[Ash]

Could you grind a regular button head flat enough on a belt sander?

 

[FullMotoJacket]

No, they wont. These screws are unique to tyrolia AT bindings.

They're unique, but not unique to Tyrolia. THey make them in all the common metric sizes. A number of bicycle part manufacturers use(d) the 5mm ones for mounting hardware for their brakes. I have some, but they are for spare brakes. Have lots of 8mm at work. 3R uses them for the dovetail mounts for their interchangeable part holding systems, but that doesn't help you.

Try Spokes 'n Slopes in Milton. They are a Tyrolia dealer. Ask for Kevin. If he says "huh?", tell him you're looking for the same cap screws with the stubby/wide heads that Avid used for Tri-Align canti brakes and TWP used for their AMP strut brace. He'll know then.

 

[Red_Liner740]

Do you have an upclose picture of the type of bolt you need? I can probably machine an existing type of bolt to your size....I'm thinking a flat head with the V machined flatter.

 

[daught]

Is there enough meat to allow you to just rethread a tyrolia woodthread into an M5? Hard to even find tyrolia bindings for sale around here, all the new skiis having the "system" bindings.

How current is the tyrolia Elan in the picture?

I tried it this morning on a few spare screws I have. I get a bunch of half threads. I wouldn't trust such threads on bigger drops.
These bindings came out this year. Here's their marketing video. Really cool binding.
[video=youtube;FEZFP1eVoVo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEZFP1eVoVo[/video]

They're unique, but not unique to Tyrolia. THey make them in all the common metric sizes. A number of bicycle part manufacturers use(d) the 5mm ones for mounting hardware for their brakes. I have some, but they are for spare brakes. Have lots of 8mm at work. 3R uses them for the dovetail mounts for their interchangeable part holding systems, but that doesn't help you.

Try Spokes 'n Slopes in Milton. They are a Tyrolia dealer. Ask for Kevin. If he says "huh?", tell him you're looking for the same cap screws with the stubby/wide heads that Avid used for Tri-Align canti brakes and TWP used for their AMP strut brace. He'll know then.

Do you have an upclose picture of the type of bolt you need? I can probably machine an existing type of bolt to your size....I'm thinking a flat head with the V machined flatter.

While the head looks similar there is a "barrel" section between the head and threads that's a bit larger than the M5 screw. It keeps the titanium plate from moving laterally. I dont have a picture yet. I am going to get them anyways. Hopefully if I have it in front of my I can figure something out.


I think I found a pretty good solution. http://www.slidewright.com/svst-heli-coil-alpine-ski-insert-kit_svhcssk.html
These are heli coils that match alpine screws. Can I repeatedly insert and remove screws out of heli coils or are they a one shot deal?

 

[FullMotoJacket]

While the head looks similar there is a "barrel" section between the head and threads that's a bit larger than the M5 screw. It keeps the titanium plate from moving laterally.

Like these?

or these?

 

[daught]

Like these?

Yep they are similar to that one.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

They're available commercially. Try Bolts+. Brofasco are nun mammies.

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