Congrats to Aprilia

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Remember when Suzuki and Ducati were the only two manufacturers likely to top WSBK lap times? Now this tiny little company from Noale wins two championships and lands 5 bikes into the top 10 on qualifying.

TIMES (Qualifying): 1. Fabrizio (Aprilia) 1’31.3; 2. Laverty (Aprilia) 1’31.3 ; 3. Melandri (BMW) 1’31.5; 4. Camier (Suzuki) 1’31.6; 5. Davies (Aprilia) 1’31.6; 6. Haslam (Honda) 1’31.6; 7. Sykes (Kawasaki) 1’31.7; 8. Giugliano (Aprilia) 1’31.7; 9. Guintoli (Aprilia) 1’31.8; 10. Rea (Honda) 1’31.8…. 12. Checa (Ducati Alstare) 1’32.0…. 16. Badovini (Ducati Alstare) 1’32.5

Champagne corks are flying tonight in Italy. And not just at Aprilia, Checa once again Checa'd out and got Superpole on the 1199 in the end, but there were still 4 Aprilias in the top 10. :)

A lot of Aprilias in the MotoGP CRT teams this year too. I've read comments that nobody else should bother to show up, as Aprilia will build you a complete bike at 2012 WSBK spec for about $55K (with TTX shock and NIX forks btw) and the frame adjustability will let you set the bike up to win a top class without parts made from unobtanium. There's also an 8000km life in the motor before it requires a refresh, which isn't bad at all IMHO.

They'll build an AMA spec bike for about $35K, too. I wonder if we'll see any this year...

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Anyway, since I'm probably the only one that's going to say it... I'm saying it. Congrats to Aprilia.
 
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You are not the only one. I think its an amazing achievement. I love small manufacturers. If you watched race 1 today they did extremely well lol. Too bad for checa though, love that guy. But the panigale looks promising
 
1-2-3 in race one and 1-2-4-6 in race two! The smallest manufacturer on the grid... and you can buy these bikes directly for about 1/4 of what Ducati wants for its bike. :)

See:

http://www.trackfanatics.ca/index.php?t=msg&th=340&start=0&

Aprilia will even make an engine to your spec, if you want something not on the menu.

I wonder if those prices have changed, given that Aprilia dropped its prices across the V4 range....
 
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Shaman said:
and you can buy these bikes directly for about 1/4 of what Ducati wants for its bike. :)
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LOL I see those headlight stickers are working. How many motors did they go through last year compared to the other teams? Pretty sure Biaggi used 30 +\-. Still a good result.
 
I'm sure no more than anyone else did that is in the top 5. :) BMW's efforts required endless engine modifications, as the riders found them nearly unusable at times...

Honestly I don't know, I remember reading that they had made no significant changes to the motor in 2012 and in fact had detuned the motor from the 2011 year in a sense. They found it better to make the engine more usable; took that mental top-end hit out of it which plagued the BMW team's motors so much as well. Being a WSBK team, who knows the truth?
 
Your still not buying anything near what they're riding. Engine cases and frame don't really make a whole bike.
 
At top level the ECU probably is worth 35K.

Aprillia , the mouse that roared! great to see somebody outside the usual suspects throw huge money at getting to the podium. This is a fantastic achievement and a wakeup call for the others
 
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Your still not buying anything near what they're riding. Engine cases and frame don't really make a whole bike.
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Wrong. You didn't take a look at the link I posted. They will build you a 2012 WSBK spec bike for about $55K or an AMA spec bike for about $38K. This is why you're seeing independents in WSBK and MotoGP CRT using them this year.

Are they exactly like their current bike (or their 2012 bike?) Only Aprilia knows. But they claim it's so...

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FYI, Norton are now using a RSV4 engine in their prototype and are talking about producing a specialty bike based on it... who knows if it'll happen, it's Norton...

At top level the ECU probably is worth 35K.
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No, they include the APX2 ECU and base software in the $38K package. Spec here:

http://www.af1racing.com/store/ProdImages/st3/apx2wdataacq.pdf
 
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Wrong. You didn't take a look at the link I posted. They will build you a 2012 WSBK spec bike for about $55K or an AMA spec bike for about $38K. This is why you're seeing independents in WSBK and MotoGP CRT using them this
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55k for a wsbk....lol ya sure.
 
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55k for a wsbk....lol ya sure.
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Believe what you want, you definitely always do anyway. It wouldn't be their 2013 bike and I'm sure there are some differences, but you can order up a bike virtually identical to the WSB ride from 2012. What do you think Fabrizio and Giugliani were on this weekend? They weren't exactly backmarkers on those bikes, either...
 
So you think that there's a machine cap of 250K EUR in place, but somehow a guy who ran 4th this weekend was on a machine which you and I can have built for 55K? If that is true why would Dorna bother with the cap in the first place?

I get it you are an Aprilia fan, but even you should be able to see through this.

BTW, the balast for Aprilia's is coming fast ... LOL ... isn't that how they always slow down WSBK ruling brand?
 
Uh... I even posted THEIR price sheets and their SBK custom build offer. I have no doubt that the teams have spares and equipment out the wazoo... but Aprilia makes the bikes available and "affordable". Their package was already heads above the others in many ways, stock.

If you can't even bother to read Aprilia's own race offerings and would rather argue, I guess carry on...

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Uh... I even posted THEIR price sheets and their SBK custom build offer. I have no doubt that the teams have spares and equipment out the wazoo... but Aprilia makes the bikes available and "affordable". Their package was already heads above the others in many ways, stock.

If you can't even bother to read Aprilia's own race offerings and would rather argue, I guess carry on...

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So if its so cheap to run a competitve sbk then why isn't their any in AMA? Heck I'm sure a yosh or graves bike is going to set you back close to 100k, a friggin MX bike is 100k for the top AMA teams. The wheels/breaks/suspension/ecu package to run a top wsbk team is going to be close to 20k, and then a motor and a whole bike...I think we're over 55k now.

And no I'm not going to your forum to read aprilia info.
 
Good question. And poor attitude. Be ignorant, if you prefer.

(for people who want to learn something... the factory race-prepped Aprilia already comes with forged lightweight wheels, fully adjustable (swingarm, engine height, steering angle) frame, TTX/NIX suspension, Brembo brakes, the full TCS capabilities and as per the DOCUMENTATION I PROVIDED THAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD RATHER ARGUE ABOUT THAN READ, you get the APX2 ECU with data acquisition with the $38K AMA spec bike, much less the WSBK bike which starts around $55K for all the AMA spec options plus a built engine package (which can be specified as to build) with bike - this bike does not *NEED* the level of preparation that most manufacturers require to be competitive, it comes that way out of the factory).
 
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I guess Ohlins gas charged superbike forks have come down in price lately!

Factory superbike motor builds are BOGO now too?

Ha.
 
My bike should be competitve at an AMA level then too, it was close to 35k to build apparently.
 
Yep. You'd rather remain ignorant. Nice straw man article, too... says nothing about what Aprilia offers privateers.
 
"The series' critics charge that this obsession caused WSBK to allow bikes into the series which were more like MotoGP prototypes than production road bikes. The Aprilia RSV4 is one of the bikes most often named in this regard,"

"How such substantial price reductions - according to the Speedweek article, a competitive WSBK machine currently costs around 300,000 euros per bike"

Yep, they're just a roll of the showroom rsv4....
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