Clutch not disengaging issue

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2005 ducati monster s2r 800

When bike is turned off and left in gear for parking purposes. The clutch does not disengage the gear so that i can move the bike around

I have to shift up to neutral.

When bike is running the clutch disengages and works just fine

Is this how ducs are?

My kawi i can pull clutch in and move bike around in garage without shifting to N
 
I'm not familiar with the dry clutches or with their mechanics, but

( Gear in + clutch pull ) does not exactly equal Neutral, especially when the engine is cold.

On my FZ6, I need to apply A LOT more force to move the bike around when gear in + clutch pull vs. neutral.

Next time the bike is cold and in gear, try to push harder to see if it moves. Once you move it a little, it becomes fairly easier.
 
If the bike won't roll as easily when the bike is in gear and clutch pulled in - thats normal.

I'm sure your Kawi is the same way.

Both have wet clutches - perhaps if the duc has been sitting for a while or if it's cold outside - it might increase the rolling resistance.

Also make sure the clutch is adjusted properly .
 
i find the same thing if i turn off the bike when it's hot then i come back when it's cold, and i've heard others say the same. i guess the plates stick a little as they cool down.
 
STR said:
My Ninja 500 is the same, in gear, engine off, and clutch in...the bike won't move.
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My 650R rolls easily with clutch in even when cold. New RS not so much but I think it has way thicker tranny/clutch oil due it not being used as engine oil as well.
 
All my bikes did this (when i had to leave bike in gear for a purpose), but never to a point i could not move it, either that or you need to hit the gym. Jokes aside your leaving your bike in gear while its off too long and too often.

It also gets harder to move the more your oil is older, and the more older your clutch is, cold has nothing to do with it. But the difference between N moving it, and gear engaged moving with clutch in...is huge.

You have to remember the purpose of a clutch is to TEMPORARILY disingage the transmission so you can shift, thats why we have NEUTRAL which is the proper way, the permanent way to disingage transmission from clutch/engine. so we can move the bike etc.

You should never leave, cars, specially bikes in gear when not riding for the exact same reason for longer then its necessary, the longer its left in gear, the clutch plates stick with the oil and transmission engaged starts to stick as well, there thousands of things actuated when bike in in gear versus when its not, you have to think inside the engine.

I know alot of owners whos transmission got stuck for leaving bike always parked in gear all the time, after running their bikes in different temps, speeds and so on.

You should never leave bike off in gear unless you really need to for the bikes safety.
 
PS: When you move a bike in gear you literally are moving the whole transmission as well...what is the point, work smart not hard...leave it in Netural always.
 
I've never heard of that. Also, your clutch is still engaged when you're in neutral so your argument of making the clutch not stick by leaving it in neutral is invalid.

The only negative I've ever seen from leaving a car in gear is that the springs that center the shifter get worn in the first gear position so the shifter will naturally lean in that direction even in neutral. That was on a car that was 23 years old, though, and was parked that way for about 5 years straight. The tires had flat spots, too. Otherwise I've never had a problem and I park cars for months like that.
 
unL33T said:
I've never heard of that. Also, your clutch is still engaged when you're in neutral so your argument of making the clutch not stick by leaving it in neutral is invalid.

The only negative I've ever seen from leaving a car in gear is that the springs that center the shifter get worn in the first gear position so the shifter will naturally lean in that direction even in neutral. That was on a car that was 23 years old, though, and was parked that way for about 5 years straight. The tires had flat spots, too. Otherwise I've never had a problem and I park cars for months like that.
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Just because you haven't "heard of it" or haven't seen it, DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OR DOES NOT EXISTS! lol

This is knowledge coming from a person who builds his OWN custom Bikes, registers them and rides them! i know what im talking about, if you can't prove im wrong don't try to give a useless comment like "i've never herd of that so it dosen't happen".

Your clutch system is NOT engaged with the transmission when in Neutral, becase the gears are not selected....why do you think every machine on the f ing planet has a Neutral position? its the position when transmission and engine/clutch are fully disengaged.
 
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2WET said:
Just because you haven't "heard of it" or haven't seen it, DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OR DOES NOT EXISTS! lol

This is knowledge coming from a person who builds his OWN custom Bikes, registers them and rides them! i know what im talking about, if you can't prove im wrong don't try to give a useless comment like "i've never herd of that so it dosen't happen".

Your clutch system is NOT engaged with the transmission when in Neutral, becase the gears are not selected....why do you think every machine on the f ing planet has a Neutral position? its the position when transmission and engine/clutch are fully disengaged.
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Your clutch is still engaged. It's just engaged to neutral. If the clutch wasn't engaged you'd be able to pop it into a gear without using the clutch pedal/lever. Whenever you are not pushing the pedal or pulling the lever, your clutch engages. I will agree that your engine is not engaged to the wheels if we want to argue semantics.

This would prevent you transmission / gear sticking situation you mentioned, I suppose, but if the clutch plates are sticking leaving it in neutral should have no affect.

We can discuss our differing opinions without getting so angry and name calling.
 
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