Cameras cameras everywhere...

[mimico_polak]

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Funny story but the shot spotter system in Chicago was mothballed because it was deemed racist,kid you not.

Considering some considered math racist…nothing shocks me anymore.

 

[Mad Mike]

Like most of douggies ideas, this is half-baked at best. Douggie wanted to repurpose speed cameras to monitor entrances to neighbourhoods. Most municipalities don't own the cameras. The company that owns the cameras currently gets ~30% of ticket revenue to pay for the cameras and their service. If the tickets drop to zero, the cameras do not remain in Ontario, they get redeployed to a jurisdiction where they can generate money.

I’d go for sharing my cameras.

If I were in charge I’d give out free cameras to citizens providing they agree to host a camera on their property.

 

[GreyGhost]

I’d go for sharing my cameras.

If I were in charge I’d give out free cameras to citizens providing they agree to host a camera on their property.

I thought about that but decided it was a bad idea. My cameras are set to capture very little off property. In the chance they catch something, I don't mind checking and passing footage to the cops but they don't get access.

For municipal supplied cameras, unless they become really popular, They make your house a target as they will all be the same make/model and would be easy for bad guys to pick out if they wanted to operate in an area. The dirtbags in barrie are all wearing masks and hoodies so identifying them even if you have a great camera and shot is well framed is difficult.

If the cops had unfettered access to a camera that can see your property, that's not ideal. Fire up a two-stroke and they can use that evidence to ding you for a bylaw or epa infraction if they're bored and your neighbour is a Karen. Don't self-snitch.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Didn’t the province have speed cameras on the 400 series highways years ago?

Everyone would slam their brakes when they saw a van parked by the side of the road.

First generation of speed cameras in Ontario were in vans. I saw them on smaller highways but not expressways (maybe they were there too but I didn't see them). They were also killed as they were pretending they were safety but used them for revenue.

Use to see one on the 404 southbound a lot when I lived in Stouffville. The panic braking show they caused at highway speeds was stupifying. And the big push to get rid of them was invasion of privacy issues. Uncle Mike took care of that once the province realized putting a rainbows and unicorns faux liberal Marxists in power wasn't such a good idea after all.

 

[nobbie48]

The contracts are between municipalities and providers. Not douggies bill.

IIRC Brampton built a processing centre and is a service provider to other municipalities. That's part of the reason Brown is pushing so hard. He gets all the money from Brampton cameras and cut of other municipalities too.

These crime cameras will be a fail. Either the bad guys shoot them on the way in or more likely they are in stolen cars/plates anyway so almost no useful information will be obtained. Sure, it may help the cops know they are looking for a black BMW sooner but barring a miracle, that doesn't help find the perpetrators.

I haven't researched the surveillance cameras in the UK but get the impression they are part of a massive complex. Most are private and estimates range in the millions. The country seems to be evenly split between pro and con with privacy acceptance.

There's lots of info on Wikipedia.

Not for the first time, Douggie hasn't done his research. Crime cameras will have different technology. They will require extensive monitoring by humans or AI. Slow response times hobble the benefits.

Crime cameras will have to be government funded because unlike traffic tickets they don't generate income. It costs serious coin to investigate crime and follow through with trials and incarceration. Traffic cams make money.

Private cameras can be valuable but as others have expressed, I wouldn't want to turn over my entire collection of videos just in case I had made a tiny slipup somewhere or I exposed myself to a lawsuit.

Many years ago, on a very hot day we were returning home from shopping and we passed a house where a little girl maybe 4 years old, was riding her bicycle through their lawn sprinkler. Being safety conscious, she was wearing her helmet but had removed all her clothes and neatly placed them on their verandah. The innocence of a child can be so hilarious and as we laughed my wife said she wished she had a camera.

If that had happened more recently it would have been picked up on my dashcam and possibly interpreted as child porn.

The next step in traffic cams is insurance premium increases. The insurer doesn't know who was driving but they will know that you allow bad drivers to use your car, increasing risks. The technology is there.

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