Roadghost
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Well looks like another Boeing 737 has gone down. This time in Jakarta. No word yet on what happened, but sounds like total destruction.
Indonesia (india.com)
Indonesia (india.com)
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Boeing 737 Max 8
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Didn't they approve flights again in the states for that plane?
different plane.
I don't mean that particular plane but same model
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flightrader has a page that shows the flight path and where it went wrong:
www.flightradar24.com
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that's what i mean, it's not the same. The article says the plane was put into service 27 years ago.
Green Meenie
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It was the Max 8 737's that had the 2 crashes a few years back and have just been OK'ed to fly again.
This one was a 737-500. Much older Boeing 737 model with no particular documented issues like the Max 8. Southwest Airlines had a bunch in their fleet but has retired all of them as of 2016.
This one was a 737-500. Much older Boeing 737 model with no particular documented issues like the Max 8. Southwest Airlines had a bunch in their fleet but has retired all of them as of 2016.
737-500 is a second generation 737, circa 1987. Technically would be a perfectly good airplane, but they are undesirable for most airlines these days because of their low passenger capacity (132 in sardine configuration vs 184 of a 737-800). Not really much is known about what happened at this point... don't know if it's accurate or not but Flightradar shows a fairly normal ascent before it suddenly falls out of the sky like a rock. Sriwijaya Air flight 182 crashes near Jakarta | Flightradar24 Blog
As others have said, not a Max 8. Fisherman are reporting an explosion followed by a splash. Planes dont normally explode in the air without help. Obviously eyewitness accounts can be mistaken. Rov and divers deployed to area, black box pings detected. Answers should come eventually.
I think current culture at Boeing is horrendous and a good portion of their organizational tree belongs in jail but highly doubt they will be at all responsible for this crash.
www.cp24.com
I think current culture at Boeing is horrendous and a good portion of their organizational tree belongs in jail but highly doubt they will be at all responsible for this crash.
Indonesian divers spot parts of plane wreckage in Java Sea
Indonesia's military chief says divers have spotted parts of the wreckage of a Boeing 737-500 at a depth of 23 metres (75 feet) in the Java Sea, a day after the aircraft with 62 people onboard crashed.
www.cp24.com
As others have said, not a Max 8. Fisherman are reporting an explosion followed by a splash. Planes dont normally explode in the air without help. Obviously eyewitness accounts can be mistaken. Rov and divers deployed to area, black box pings detected. Answers should come eventually.
I think current culture at Boeing is horrendous and a good portion of their organizational tree belongs in jail but highly doubt they will be at all responsible for this crash.
Indonesian divers spot parts of plane wreckage in Java Sea
Indonesia's military chief says divers have spotted parts of the wreckage of a Boeing 737-500 at a depth of 23 metres (75 feet) in the Java Sea, a day after the aircraft with 62 people onboard crashed.
Agreed but some people will connect non existent dots to the Max 8. The supposed explosion has to be confirmed but with the rate of drop it makes sense. IIRC a Hawaiian 737 lost it's roof decades ago with island hopping being part of the cause, pressure flexing. They landed safely except for losing one stewardess. Was this plane an island hopper?
DownUnder
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Plane exploding in mid air just after takeoff from a country with a history of terrorist activity... I think boeing may not be responsible for this one.As others have said, not a Max 8. Fisherman are reporting an explosion followed by a splash. Planes dont normally explode in the air without help. Obviously eyewitness accounts can be mistaken. Rov and divers deployed to area, black box pings detected. Answers should come eventually.
I think current culture at Boeing is horrendous and a good portion of their organizational tree belongs in jail but highly doubt they will be at all responsible for this crash.
Indonesian divers spot parts of plane wreckage in Java Sea
Indonesia's military chief says divers have spotted parts of the wreckage of a Boeing 737-500 at a depth of 23 metres (75 feet) in the Java Sea, a day after the aircraft with 62 people onboard crashed.
Parts found in 23m of water. Should be able to put together a good picture of what happened.
Turbine wheel in pic below. All blades broken off or fallen out. Those do not come apart easily. I would be surprised if a bomb in the fuselage could cause that much damage. So uncontained engine explosion (I would doubt that is loud enough for what fishermen described) or something else was the root cause and the engine was running when it hit the water?
Upon further inspection, holy hell is that messed up. There appears to be a ring cracked off from the centre of the turbine wheel and one of the tombstones is broken off.
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So far reports say plane was intact when it hit the water. Pics are brutal. Wheels broken in half, etc. It had a crazy amount of energy when it hit the water if that's the case. It will be interesting to hear how the explosion heard fits in with an intact crash. Maybe a part or two tore off during the dive and caused the noise?
Turbine wheel in pic below. All blades broken off or fallen out. Those do not come apart easily. I would be surprised if a bomb in the fuselage could cause that much damage. So uncontained engine explosion (I would doubt that is loud enough for what fishermen described) or something else was the root cause and the engine was running when it hit the water?
Upon further inspection, holy hell is that messed up. There appears to be a ring cracked off from the centre of the turbine wheel and one of the tombstones is broken off.
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So far reports say plane was intact when it hit the water. Pics are brutal. Wheels broken in half, etc. It had a crazy amount of energy when it hit the water if that's the case. It will be interesting to hear how the explosion heard fits in with an intact crash. Maybe a part or two tore off during the dive and caused the noise?
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Ex-Boeing 737 MAX chief technical pilot indicted for fraud
A former chief technical pilot for Boeing Co was charged with fraud on Thursday for deceiving federal regulators evaluating the company's 737 MAX jet, hindering the ability to protect airline passengers and leaving "pilots in the lurch," the U.S. Justice Department said.
www.reuters.com
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