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Auto-renewing plates question

KLR Junkie

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Hey all,

Now that our plates are auto-renewing, has anyone heard if Service Ontario will be mailing out new registration cards that don't have expiration dates printed on them?

While my older permits don't have it, the last couple of vehicles that I've registered have had expiration dates printed on the plate portion of the permit. I don't want to be driving around with a permit that has an expired date on it. I can just picture it now, some local yokel deputy in PA has me pulled over for speeding and I've got to explain that 'it's OK officer, my registration is still valid, it's just that Ontario doesn't enforce that anymore but they didn't send out new permits.'

I've sent an email to SO asking them what's up, but their standard of service for emails is 15 days so I thought I'd check in here.
 
We'd all like to think they thought that far ahead
 
Interesting question. Looking at one printed in 2019, it has effective date on the front but no expiry. On the back in the validation sticker section it has "This permit must be presented for annual validation" and my last sticker expired long ago. I'm not sure if they updated the form since douggie killed stickers or if they still hand out the same form that gives out of province LE something to latch on to.
 
There was a radio campaign last year I think about this. You have to renew it, even if free, you will not get the reminder mail. You can ask to be emailed on their web site. I renewed for 2 years as that was an option last year, as I didn't get the envelope and forgot about it.
You need your plate number and another number on your ownership.
 
There was a radio campaign last year I think about this. You have to renew it, even if free, you will not get the reminder mail. You can ask to be emailed on their web site. I renewed for 2 years as that was an option last year, as I didn't get the envelope and forgot about it.
You need your plate number and another number on your ownership.
As of July 1, it is auto-renew as long as you don't owe money (tickets or 407).

The question the OP asked is in regards to the paperwork in his possession that a foreign LE officer may take issue with. I haven't heard of any efforts to replace that paperwork with something that said that the paperwork was perpetually valid as long as the computer was happy.
 
As of July 1, it is auto-renew as long as you don't owe money (tickets or 407).

The question the OP asked is in regards to the paperwork in his possession that a foreign LE officer may take issue with. I haven't heard of any efforts to replace that paperwork with something that said that the paperwork was perpetually valid as long as the computer was happy.
Oh, got it, thanks!
 
I was in Service Ontario last week asking about auto renew and they have been told nothing about the program. Seems like less work for them on the horizon
 
I was in Service Ontario last week asking about auto renew and they have been told nothing about the program. Seems like less work for them on the horizon
See that is 100% what I expect
 
IMO this whole program is total BS.

When your licence plate automatically renews:
  • it will be valid for 1 year
  • law enforcement will be instantly aware your licence plate was renewed
  • we will not contact you to confirm your plate was renewed
  • you will not receive a sticker
  • you will not have to pay a fee
The ministry "will not contact you to confirm your plate was renewed".

They'll process this 3 months before the expiry date. Mine is mid October 2024. So presumably this process can begin as early at July 15. But what is the target completion date? 1 week, 2 weeks, a month from July 15?

Given the track record of the DoFo government, and government in general, do I trust them to do this properly? So, to be prudent, I have to check to see that it was done correctly. So I have to log in using below info.

ServiceOntario

Licence plate expiry checker​

Required documents​

Before you start, you will need both your:
  1. licence plate number
  2. vehicle permit number (also known as the vehicle ownership)

If I have to do this then I might as well have renewed my plates myself for 2 years, not 1 year, as the incremental steps are negligible at that point.

Also, with my 2 year renewal I printed out the documents stipulating that my plates were valid so if Billy Bob in North Carolina stops me on my bike I don't get jailed or have the bike seized for expired plates. As extra insurance I carefully peeled off all the old stickers on the plate., but my registration document still has an implied expiry date (the month and year) on the sticker you affix there.

Typical DoFo knee jerk, poorly thought out and executed "plan". The whole mess started as a populist "buy the election" exercise that deprives the government of revenue with no corresponding reduction in expenses. All this does is contribute to the deficit.
 
Shockingly, I got a reply from Service Ontario. Here's the relevant portion of the email:
When your licence plate is renewed, it also renews your vehicle ownership permit automatically.

The Ministry of Transportation has communicated the changes to other jurisdictions so that they are aware that Ontario licence plate stickers will no longer be issued and that passenger, light-trucks, motorcycles, limited speed motorcycles mopeds, Dealer, Service and Manufacturer plates may show an expired or missing sticker. Expired stickers may be removed or left on the plate as of March 13, 2022.

Please note: when your plate is renewed, law enforcement will instantly be aware your licence plate was renewed.

As an option, individuals are eligible to get an updated permit reprint at Service Ontario locations at no cost. You will need to bring your existing permit in order to get a free replacement. The new vehicle permits state that plate validation is not required.

So, just like the plate stickers, everyone has been automatically informed of the change and there will be absolutely no problems with law enforcement from jurisdictions outside of Ontario. 🤨

Fortunately it's only my new dual sport bike that has the expiration date printed on the permit. If I decide to take the bike on a trip down south, maybe I'll go get a reprinted permit, just in case.
 
Shockingly, I got a reply from Service Ontario. Here's the relevant portion of the email:


So, just like the plate stickers, everyone has been automatically informed of the change and there will be absolutely no problems with law enforcement from jurisdictions outside of Ontario. 🤨

Fortunately it's only my new dual sport bike that has the expiration date printed on the permit. If I decide to take the bike on a trip down south, maybe I'll go get a reprinted permit, just in case.
Let us know how it goes. I will talk to my SO contact and see how they are dealing with this. Normally they reissue ownership for change of address for free but lost ownership costs you $20 or so. This is neither of those scenarios so I'm not sure what they do on the computer (they could easily do lost ownership but that likely triggers the charge which you won't want to pay).
 
IMO this whole program is total BS.

When your licence plate automatically renews:
  • it will be valid for 1 year
  • law enforcement will be instantly aware your licence plate was renewed
  • we will not contact you to confirm your plate was renewed
  • you will not receive a sticker
  • you will not have to pay a fee
The ministry "will not contact you to confirm your plate was renewed".

They'll process this 3 months before the expiry date. Mine is mid October 2024. So presumably this process can begin as early at July 15. But what is the target completion date? 1 week, 2 weeks, a month from July 15?

Given the track record of the DoFo government, and government in general, do I trust them to do this properly? So, to be prudent, I have to check to see that it was done correctly. So I have to log in using below info.

ServiceOntario

Licence plate expiry checker​

Required documents​

Before you start, you will need both your:
  1. licence plate number
  2. vehicle permit number (also known as the vehicle ownership)

If I have to do this then I might as well have renewed my plates myself for 2 years, not 1 year, as the incremental steps are negligible at that point.

Also, with my 2 year renewal I printed out the documents stipulating that my plates were valid so if Billy Bob in North Carolina stops me on my bike I don't get jailed or have the bike seized for expired plates. As extra insurance I carefully peeled off all the old stickers on the plate., but my registration document still has an implied expiry date (the month and year) on the sticker you affix there.

Typical DoFo knee jerk, poorly thought out and executed "plan". The whole mess started as a populist "buy the election" exercise that deprives the government of revenue with no corresponding reduction in expenses. All this does is contribute to the deficit.

If your plate will not renew automatically​

Step 1: We will contact you​

We will contact you if your licence plate can’t be automatically renewed because you have an issue with your insurance or outstanding fines or tolls.

Text, email or phone​

If you have signed up to receive renewal reminders by text, email or phone call, you will be notified 90 days, 45 days and 10 days before your licence plate expires.

Mail​

If you have not signed up for digital renewal reminders, we will mail you a letter 90 days before your licence plate expires.

Make sure you update your address within 6 days after you move so you receive mail from ServiceOntario.
 

If your plate will not renew automatically​

Step 1: We will contact you​

We will contact you if your licence plate can’t be automatically renewed because you have an issue with your insurance or outstanding fines or tolls.

Text, email or phone​

If you have signed up to receive renewal reminders by text, email or phone call, you will be notified 90 days, 45 days and 10 days before your licence plate expires.

Mail​

If you have not signed up for digital renewal reminders, we will mail you a letter 90 days before your licence plate expires.

Make sure you update your address within 6 days after you move so you receive mail from ServiceOntario.
I also got a letter in the mail saying that they won't auto renew any of my older vehicles those will still need to be manually renewed
Licence plates will not be automatically renewed for:
commercial and business vehicles.
motorhomes.
vehicles manufactured before 1983.
buses and school buses.
off-road vehicles and snowmobiles.
trailers.

Sent from the future
 
I also got a letter in the mail saying that they won't auto renew any of my older vehicles those will still need to be manually renewed

Sent from the future
What is older? Do you have historic or YOM plates on them? Is there a reason for historic plates to exist anymore?
 
I wonder what the point of that cutoff would be
 

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