latest on the new Safety Cert Drive On program...

Been like that for a few years here. All electronic now and I think automatic scanners here as well.
 
Which shop? Sounds like the guy is unreasonable, but he's going by the book on the turn signals. I believe they need to be a minimum distance from the center of the bike to pass. I don't know if they need to be OEM, but they may not notice if you buy an OEM-ish looking set. As for the costs:

- 1 left grip ( a pair is as cheap as $10)
- 4 turn signals ($20-$50 for a set of 4 on the cheap side)
- hardware for gas tank were missing but they are both there just not OEM (what exactly is this hardware?)
- one brake caliper bleeder cap ($1?)
- one of the four screws that hold my chain guard ($1?)

So your bike isn't worth safetying for $60?
Tank bolts were just some M8 bolts i bought same thread pitch and yes of course it is , it was the way he didnt want to go ahead with it was and is my problem then charge me the full price to not put it in the tablet ...at least then id of known if there were anything seriously wrong with it...not cosmetic **** ..also said i had a massive oil leak ...which is crazy talk my bike is sitting behind me in my dining room and hot or cold no leaks .. it was just his lack of wanting to do it that makes me upset because I wasted 2 weeks of time booking that appointment thinking I was going to get on the road within a couple days of that at least now I've got to book another appointment and wait another probably week or two you know what I'm saying 60 bucks is f****** nothing dude
 
You don't need safety for plates or to register it fyi.
I appreciate all your guys's input now I know what I can do Monday while I'm waiting to book for the next safety cuz I do want it safety that I do want to be able to ride it legit So yeah thank you guys
 
have not seen an ontario paper plate yet. they exist?!
I've seen them inside the windows of cars. I've never seen one on a bike..

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I've seen them inside the windows of cars. I've never seen one on a bike..

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Perhaps they may still issues them to bikes but you would just be expected to have it on you if asked by the PD.
 
I've seen them inside the windows of cars. I've never seen one on a bike..

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I got this temp paper plate when I bought one of my previous bikes in Ottawa for cheap adn rode it back home - no need safety adn good for 10days. You don’t need to “stick it” to a bike, just to have it with you. I mounted one of my existing previous bikes plate to the bike to avoid the attention riding with no plate. Nobody stopped me so can’t say how cops react on these..
 
Tank bolts were just some M8 bolts i bought same thread pitch and yes of course it is , it was the way he didnt want to go ahead with it was and is my problem then charge me the full price to not put it in the tablet ...at least then id of known if there were anything seriously wrong with it...not cosmetic **** ..also said i had a massive oil leak ...which is crazy talk my bike is sitting behind me in my dining room and hot or cold no leaks .. it was just his lack of wanting to do it that makes me upset because I wasted 2 weeks of time booking that appointment thinking I was going to get on the road within a couple days of that at least now I've got to book another appointment and wait another probably week or two you know what I'm saying 60 bucks is f****** nothing dude

Complain to the shop, outlining exactly what you posted here, unless he's the owner. Ask him to show you all the problems and take pics for yourself. If he does't want to resolve this, then name the shop in here so the rest of us know who to avoid. Then forward all of this to MTO as a complaint - the whole point of this new system is to reduce fraud (both ways), so they must have some way to snitch.
 
For a temp plate, you can get regular layes or use an existing set if you attatch them to the vehicle. They don't put a temp sticker on anymore.

As for safeties on bikes, the biggest change I've noticed are the costs - around here they have doubled -- and if your bike has drums expect another $50 per wheel. I could get a bike safety for $125 last year, today it's $250+.

Also, dedicated bike shops appear to flag discretional fail items - more liberally - likely because they \generate repair revenues and customers are anxious to get their bikes on the road. I was at a local Kawi shop a few weeks ago and overheard the serice guty tell a customer - we fail all tires more than 5 years on the date code, any visible rust on the chain, no aftermarket levers, controls, signals, mirrors or exhaust unless they were installed here. Common things for bike shops to fail clear pass items are tires, chains and sprockets, head bearings, afermarket controls, mirrors and lighting - a local shop also marked fail on a friend's Goldwing because it had a sheepskin stitched to his saddle.

I'm more than capable of doing an inspection -- but not liceced to issue a cert. I've never had a bike fail, but have had heated discussions about non safety items that my local powersports place tried to gouge me on by markeing them a discretionary safety concern (clip style masterlink, fork gaiters replacing fork seal dust covers, aftermarket signals, and a deleted cosmetic side cover come to mind.

I now use use a regular auto shop that has a tech with a motorcycle licence - they tend to do safeties by the book and are not hunting down revenue opportunities to fail for non safety items. My local Canadian Tire does bike safeties, and doesn't charge customers for reinspection of failed items if they return the bike to be rechecled within 20 days.
 
For a temp plate, you can get regular layes or use an existing set if you attatch them to the vehicle. They don't put a temp sticker on anymore.

As for safeties on bikes, the biggest change I've noticed are the costs - around here they have doubled -- and if your bike has drums expect another $50 per wheel. I could get a bike safety for $125 last year, today it's $250+.

Also, dedicated bike shops appear to flag discretional fail items - more liberally - likely because they \generate repair revenues and customers are anxious to get their bikes on the road. I was at a local Kawi shop a few weeks ago and overheard the serice guty tell a customer - we fail all tires more than 5 years on the date code, any visible rust on the chain, no aftermarket levers, controls, signals, mirrors or exhaust unless they were installed here. Common things for bike shops to fail clear pass items are tires, chains and sprockets, head bearings, afermarket controls, mirrors and lighting - a local shop also marked fail on a friend's Goldwing because it had a sheepskin stitched to his saddle.

I'm more than capable of doing an inspection -- but not liceced to issue a cert. I've never had a bike fail, but have had heated discussions about non safety items that my local powersports place tried to gouge me on by markeing them a discretionary safety concern (clip style masterlink, fork gaiters replacing fork seal dust covers, aftermarket signals, and a deleted cosmetic side cover come to mind.

I now use use a regular auto shop that has a tech with a motorcycle licence - they tend to do safeties by the book and are not hunting down revenue opportunities to fail for non safety items. My local Canadian Tire does bike safeties, and doesn't charge customers for reinspection of failed items if they return the bike to be rechecled within 20 days.
I was curious about the tire thing when I was trying to buy a 2002 car with 23,000km on it (collector). Shop said as long as the tires don't have flaws like weather cracking/etc they'll pass them. Car got scooped before i could get there but at least I know.

When I had a Corvette safetied in June I was hoping the DriveOn website would have lots of undercarriage pics etc when I looked it up but there's not much on there other than tire depth/pressures and brake measurements. No pics.
 
Complain to the shop, outlining exactly what you posted here, unless he's the owner. Ask him to show you all the problems and take pics for yourself. If he does't want to resolve this, then name the shop in here so the rest of us know who to avoid. Then forward all of this to MTO as a complaint - the whole point of this new system is to reduce fraud (both ways), so they must have some way to snitch.
See the bad part on him was that he printed out a big list of simply just cosmetic stuff, he never said there is anything unsafe about the bike sure the paint job from previous owner lokks like **** there are racing style decals on the bike but that dont make it unsafe i had on backorder the oem fairings but cancelled them for now but because he didnt like the look of the bike he never lifted a finger to help out a guy , who went against the reviews i had read because he is a local guy been around for a while so i let the reviews slide cuz i know how people get
..and he had the nerve to print out what it states at the top "safety check "
$175 plus Tax total of $224.00 .
So yes i will drop his name because i went back to him within 10 days asking him to redo it free said i fixed all the "Problems" he listed and he declined..

" CRASHBURN CYCLE LONDON ONTARIO CANADA on ELIAS STREET .

It pisses me off i have to call someone out like this but i worked my ass off to be legit this year now season is damn near done and i still have not a bike to ride "legit" ..
I appreciate all the comments , i do . If anyone has any referrals in my city or close by id love to hear them ..till next time
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Just talked to my mechanic about this safety and he said he loves it. It sucks if you throw one guy at it because it's a pain to take pics, while measuring etc...

But, he throws 2 guys at it. One to document with photo evidence, and the other to do the measurements to the camera.

Says they get it done in half the time and is cranking safeties out.

I asked about motorcycle safeties and he said they used to do them when they were normal written safeties, however the new system doesn't want to let him log in for motorcycle safeties so he recommended I go to BARTZ as that's nearby also. He's going to try and get back into motorcycle safeties when the system allows him.
 
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