E bikes rampaging Toronto streets

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adri said:
"There is a concrete curb, which has been identified."

I wonder how many union members it took to identify the concrete curb.

Was the conversation like...

"Looks like a concrete curb to me, what do you think partner?"

"Could be. We better get forensics in here."
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LePhillou said:
If you can't beat them, join them. At first i ordered because i was tired of waiting for the bus (last mile from my house to go station)

And now well... seems that with the gas prices going the way they are it might be a nice alternative to get around.

This is definitely quite the learning experience though

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I made a list of companies selling these the other day so I could reach out to them to see if they'll give me one to review.

How is the learning curve coming along? Does it take a few km, few hours, or few weeks to feel okay on one wheel?

I'm both excited and terrified. Not of the chance of getting hurt, I'm pretty much considering that to be a sure thing. I'm terrified of how my woman is going to look at me after I get hurt, like "Well, Adrian, we both knew this was going to happen, didn't we?"

and I'll just be smiling back at her like:

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Check it out, these geezers on e-bikes are rampaging again! Second time in a week.
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Man On Electric Scooter Facing Impaired Driving Charges

QUINTE WEST-The Quinte West Detachment OPP has laid charges in an impaired investigation. On Sunday, April 5, 2026, at approximately 7:00 p.m., a traffic stop on Marmora Street in Trenton led to an investigation where an electric scooter was used, resulting in the arrest of the operator for being
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adri said:
Check it out, these geezers on e-bikes are rampaging again! Second time in a week.
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Man On Electric Scooter Facing Impaired Driving Charges

QUINTE WEST-The Quinte West Detachment OPP has laid charges in an impaired investigation. On Sunday, April 5, 2026, at approximately 7:00 p.m., a traffic stop on Marmora Street in Trenton led to an investigation where an electric scooter was used, resulting in the arrest of the operator for being
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The only shocking part is that he didn't get a additional charge of driving while suspended due to previous but current impaired operation charge.
 
If you don't need a license to ride a e bike then why suspend his driving license? What next, mowing your lawn?
 
justride said:
If you don't need a license to ride a e bike then why suspend his driving license? What next, mowing your lawn?
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You don't need a license to ride an ebike but if you have a suspended license or driving prohibition, you can't ride one. So there should be an asterisk that the statement only applies to some people but let's be honest, the dealers honey pot is people with blemished driving records. The dealers happily sell LSV's as "enclosed mobility scooters" and tell the customers they are entirely legal. After a bad crash in one of those, a crackdown will come.
 
adri said:
I made a list of companies selling these the other day so I could reach out to them to see if they'll give me one to review.

How is the learning curve coming along? Does it take a few km, few hours, or few weeks to feel okay on one wheel?

I'm both excited and terrified. Not of the chance of getting hurt, I'm pretty much considering that to be a sure thing. I'm terrified of how my woman is going to look at me after I get hurt, like "Well, Adrian, we both knew this was going to happen, didn't we?"

and I'll just be smiling back at her like:

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So i can ride comfortably now. There's a group in the west end with a teacher. I'd made progress over 2-3 weeks by myself following youtube videos and what not. But there was a missing link where i needed someone to literally hold my hand to figure out how to keep going. After that initial session with the guy i felt super comfortable in straight line but turns were still "okay" then 2 weeks later i went back and he made me do an exercise for better turn control. I think just watching him do it made it click in my mind and i was doing it 5 minutes later.

Now i'm working on tight figure 8s and i ride/practice every day, sometimes running the dog with it, sometimes just going to the park with kiddo while they scoot/bike. Just enough exposure to real world scenarios to keep progressing
 
GreyGhost said:
You don't need a license to ride an ebike but if you have a suspended license or driving prohibition, you can't ride one. So there should be an asterisk that the statement only applies to some people but let's be honest, the dealers honey pot is people with blemished driving records. The dealers happily sell LSV's as "enclosed mobility scooters" and tell the customers they are entirely legal. After a bad crash in one of those, a crackdown will come.
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No powered anything. As I understand it it includes boats. Enjoy your oars.
 
Xhumeka said:
I'm pretty sure you can get a DUI for operating a riding lawn mower on private property :/
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I bought my Goldwing from a guy in suburban Detroit, big lots nice lawns.

One of his neighbors is a neat freak and scolded him because of lawn clippings on the sidewalk. He hadn't had a chance to get the blower out yet.

A week or so later Mr neat Nazi has a snootful and is riding his mower over everyone's lawns, being chased by a cop car. Criticism declined thereafter.
 
Huge crack down on eAnything here in Queensland ...draconian. :eek:
16 years to ride and needs a L licence. Confiscation of vehicle. Parents liable for kids. $333 minimum fine rising to over $1,000. Mandatory insurance....it's quite a list.
The one that is causing the most controversy is the 10 kph speed limit on shared bike paths.
That hits thousands of commuters.
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Queensland to ban under-16s from e-bikes in major safety overhaul

The Queensland Government is set to introduce laws in parliament this week banning children under 16 from r...
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MacDoc said:
Huge crack down on eAnything here in Queensland ...draconian. :eek:
16 years to ride and needs a L licence. Confiscation of vehicle. Parents liable for kids. $333 minimum fine rising to over $1,000. Mandatory insurance....it's quite a list.
The one that is causing the most controversy is the 10 kph speed limit on shared bike paths.
That hits thousands of commuters.
www.9news.com.au

Queensland to ban under-16s from e-bikes in major safety overhaul

The Queensland Government is set to introduce laws in parliament this week banning children under 16 from r...
www.9news.com.au www.9news.com.au
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If they were kept off he sidewalks the traffic fear would kill 90% of the market.
 
MacDoc said:
Huge crack down on eAnything here in Queensland ...draconian. :eek:
16 years to ride and needs a L licence. Confiscation of vehicle. Parents liable for kids. $333 minimum fine rising to over $1,000. Mandatory insurance....it's quite a list.
The one that is causing the most controversy is the 10 kph speed limit on shared bike paths.
That hits thousands of commuters.
www.9news.com.au

Queensland to ban under-16s from e-bikes in major safety overhaul

The Queensland Government is set to introduce laws in parliament this week banning children under 16 from r...
www.9news.com.au www.9news.com.au
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I have no idea on the oz situation. If it's similar to the Canada situation where it's a free-for-all and electric mobility users are the worst drivers/riders on the road often completely ignore all laws while operating vehicles that can't legally be operated in public, they brought it on themselves.
 
Yesterday in Cobourg I saw a teenager riding his electric dirt bike (talaria or whatever) the wrong way down the sidewalk, making people move out of the way. Then in Port Hope there was a guy with grey hair and glasses (no helmet) riding a skateboard/2-wheel stand up scooter down the middle of the road. At least he was going in the same direction as the traffic he was blocking
"There otta be a law..", and there likely is but the sclerotic nature of government in Canada/Ontario can't be bothered to recognize the issue and the bureaucratic police agencies can't be bothered to enforce....well pretty much anything that may be difficult or produce confrontation of any sort.
 
xrljoel said:
Yesterday in Cobourg I saw a teenager riding his electric dirt bike (talaria or whatever) the wrong way down the sidewalk, making people move out of the way. Then in Port Hope there was a guy with grey hair and glasses (no helmet) riding a skateboard/2-wheel stand up scooter down the middle of the road. At least he was going in the same direction as the traffic he was blocking
"There otta be a law..", and there likely is but the sclerotic nature of government in Canada/Ontario can't be bothered to recognize the issue and the bureaucratic police agencies can't be bothered to enforce....well pretty much anything that may be difficult or produce confrontation of any sort.
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Both of those are clearly illegal (unless PH passed an escooter bylaw). Enforcement on e anything is exceedingly.close to zero. No need for more laws if the existing are unenforced.
 
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GreyGhost said:
Both of those are clearly illegal (unless PH passed an ecooter bylaw). Enforcement on e anything is exceedingly.close to zero. No need for more laws if the existing are unenforced.
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What scares me is a driver getting charged because they didn't avoid the idiot.

A sidewalk:

A sidewalk is a paved pedestrian path, typically made of concrete or asphalt, located along the side of a road. They are designed for pedestrian safety, accessibility, and sustainable mobility, often separated from vehicle traffic by a curb. In some regions, they are referred to as pavements, footpaths, or walkways.

We typically walk at about 5 KPH so if a pedestrian is 450 feet away a driver has ample time to enter an intersection safely, a minute or two. A scooter with the governor bypassed could be ten times faster, popping into view from 45 feet away and around a corner. FWIW a friend's scooter does 80 KPH straight out of the box, 73 feet per second.

Muhammad Ali punched at 75 FPS. Why didn't his opponents just duck?

That is what the scooter lovers expect of drivers.

Add to that, we, driving on the right, tend to look left first ***. If the bonehead on the scoot is not in flow with the traffic, add another 100% to the risk factor.
*** If you're in the UK. New Zealand, Australia keep it in mind to check to the right first.
 
GreyGhost said:
If they've practiced, they should be able to stop in less than 10'. If they panic, it will be bad.
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There is a guy in my neighbourhood that rides his while filming with a big DSLR with a lot of glass on the front.
Every time that i see that i cringe inside but he is in his third year doing it so he must has some skill and even better luck.
He does wear appropriate safety gear so...
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