Didn't cobourg already have half the force off on leave? The ebikes wynnebag approved are heavy and are a an easy comp claim. "My back hurts, I'll go home with pay until my max pension is reached".
E bikes rampaging Toronto streets
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I practiced that quite a few times in my younger years. I could barely walk and never crashed. One time I did have a lot of cedar boughs caught in the brake levers. No idea how that happened. There was no cedar between my starting point and destination.
I've never ridden an ebike. You can get a dui on one.
Could be. It was several years ago. It was an absurd spectacle though.
Dirty Frank
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The tow companies will quickly refuse to pick them up due to lack of profitability with low resale value coupled with the small amount of owners that will be paying tow and impound costs.
That would leave the police having to transport and store them and with the potential fire hazard factored in the cops will soon lose any incentive to scoop them up.
Dirty Frank
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Thinking that that Cobourg deal was some inhouse blue flu.
While it was very dysfunctional, the absences were years long, not the normal flu.
Good catch.
It would likely be a couple hundred dollars in police time to stop the biker, do the paperwork and wait for the less than excited tow and store.
If the law is passed and enforced, bike prices will likely drop making storage an even bigger problem. At best we'll get a day or three of photo ops, hoping to scare riders into compliance.
In the west coast USA homeless situation, citizens want derelict RV / campers towed. The storage / tow companies will only tow if the city agrees to pay the storage charges.
The solution is licencing the bike and rider plus adding insurance.
Another poisoned Wynne well.
TK4
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100% - licencing is the answer, just like gas powered mopeds.
First impression:
Wow, that's crazy, let's get these things off the road. Won't someone think of the children?!
Second impression:
The fact that we have a 'ebikes rampaging toronto streets thread', but it took 7 years and 300+ replies before the thread saw any actual "rampaging", and that the rampaging wasn't even in Toronto, and that the rampaging that wasn't even in Toronto wasn't even on an ebike, kind of makes the point that ebike rampaging in Toronto really isn't a problem.
And I say this as a Toronto resident who drives for a good portion of my income...
It's good to have dreams.
Next you can tell me how licensing and gun bans will stop gun violence lol
The guys riding illegal Amazon pocket dirt bikes along Eglinton Ave. W. in and out of traffic, running red lights with no helmets on, are way more of an issue than any ebiker I've come across downtown or anywhere else in the city...
Being gas powered, those things by law should require licenses, insurance, turn signals, etc. I see them several times a week between Weston all the way to Dufferin. Consistently. Lack of licensing and insurance doesn't stop them, and neither do the cops.
The source of power should have no impact on the requirement for licensing and insurance. It should be based on factors like weight and speed.
If they had half a brain between them, they would not even include source of power in any laws. "This law applies to all motorized transport that is not confined to rails." No need to define 100 categories. Something like "everything that moves under it's own power and exceeds 8km/h" seems like a reasonable threshold for use in public. That also fixes most of the enclosed mobility scooter nonsense where they are actually low speed vehicles (which require a license and insurance) but the sales people and owners are pretending that law doesn't apply to them. If it is motor assist (eg human must supply more than 50% of the power), 32 km/h and 100 lbs seems a reasonable threshold to me. Anything above the thresholds is a motor vehicle and needs a license and insurance. No need to play whack-a-mole as people can make whatever form factor they want, the requirements are laid out.
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TK4
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Licencing generates provincial or municipal revenue that MAYBE could be directed towards upgrading enforcement (I hope).
All those people riding and driving dirty - no plates, phony plates, no insurance, or no valid driver's licence - is a whole other bag of worms.
And none of the above has anything to do with gun violence, which by the way is down for 2025.
People have taken to stabbing each other instead.
"When steak knives are outlawed, only outlaws will have steak knives..."
Sochi
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I've been thinking about the perspective on this issue - maybe we just need to relax and wait until all the drivers and traffic adapt to the growing number of scooters on the street. We are still very far from what’s happening on the streets of most Asian countries...
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