Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.5%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.5%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 56 50.0%

  • Total voters
    112
Cop empties his sidearm twice at close range suspect unscathed
Those were warning shots. Warnings to the cop that he needed more range time.

I've only fired a handgun once and the pop can on the fencepost 20 feet away was uninjured. The first thing one has to judge is the effective range of the shooter vs the effective range of the gun.

I always wonder there the misses ended up. Hopefully those shots disintegrated on impact.
 
Handguns aren't as easy to use effectively as television might lead you to believe.
Under ideal conditions a minimally trained/experienced person will miss... A lot.
Add in fear, stress, panic and we'll, there goes your hit factor right out the window.
Pistol rounds are also small and relatively low power.
Clint Smith puts it into perspective with his line...
"Pistols put holes in people, rifles put holes THROUGH people and shotguns, with the right load with blow chunks OFF people and leave that #### on the floor."
 
Handguns aren't as easy to use effectively as television might lead you to believe.
Under ideal conditions a minimally trained/experienced person will miss... A lot.
Add in fear, stress, panic and we'll, there goes your hit factor right out the window.
Pistol rounds are also small and relatively low power.
Clint Smith puts it into perspective with his line...
"Pistols put holes in people, rifles put holes THROUGH people and shotguns, with the right load with blow chunks OFF people and leave that #### on the floor."
Unfortunately, TV shows and movies have conditioned people to think that every cop/gun owner is a sharpshooter, under high pressure conditions. Cops frequently get asked things like, "Why didn't you just shoot the gun out of his hand?" Then you have an incident, like this one, that reinforces the stereotype.

 
and shotguns, with the right load with blow chunks OFF people and leave that #### on the floor."

They leave ample time to explain about the consequences of bad life choices prior to exsanguination.
 
Rcmp trailer has bearing failure and loses a wheel. Wheel rolls off and starts a wildfire. Any guesses on whether the officer gets a stack of tickets? Currently the official position is "we're sorry but equipment failures happen.". I'd be saving that quote to use in court if I got a ticket.

 
Two whole minutes? Cop must have been texting on his phone or something for that much of a delay.

 
Three minutes earlier or four MPH slower and he wouldn't be in cuffs. I wonder if there was a prize for the first turkey?
 
"better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer,"

The Blackstone Principle falls spectacularly when you have cops blatantly ignoring peoples rights (or tell them they don't have any) while treating them as guilty automatically during traffic stops and inferred consensual discussions hundreds if not thousands of times daily.
The Whitestone Principle: It is better that ten innocents die at the hands of criminals than one innocent spend a few years in prison before being exonerated, getting millions in compensation.
 
The Whitestone Principle: It is better that ten innocents die at the hands of criminals than one innocent spend a few years in prison before being exonerated, getting millions in compensation.

Yes. And it doesn't work when the people responsible for upholding it are the worst abusers of it.
 
Oof off duty police officer escalates verbal altercation to punching a man in the face. Thank god it was on video, but even with video, the charges were a joke and only received 5 days suspended from working.

 
Oof off duty police officer escalates verbal altercation to punching a man in the face. Thank god it was on video, but even with video, the charges were a joke and only received 5 days suspended from working.

I was going to say that this was just the immediate administrative penalty and he was still charged criminally, however, a little research shows that the charges against Ganter were dropped, last January. Criminal. Given his, "Can we charge him with something?" comment I can only imagine this isn't the first time that he's done something like this, then resorted to using the badge to get it quashed.
 
He hit my fist with his face. I want him charged with assault.
I was crossing the US border with a friend, shortly after 9/11. That's when I found out that he had once been charged with assault for, literally, hitting his landlord in the fist with his face. He was moving out and the landlord got pushy, then punched him. When police showed up he was the only one with injuries and the landlord made a claim of "mutual assault." The cops bought it, for no good reason. The charges were dropped but that stuff lives forever in records, to which US Border Services has access.
 
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