Ducati rear wheel socket

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So, I need to replace my front and rear tires. Given that the wheels need to be removed with a socket that is not common, I figured I would buy the tool, remove them myself and take them somewhere to have the tires mounted.

It looks like this is pretty much the only option I can find in Canada: https://fortnine.ca/en/bikeservice-ducati-wheel-nut-impact-socket-bse05551

Recommendations on what I should get here and how I should proceed? I'm planning on buying the impact socket just in case I can't get the rear off with a breaker bar.

Do I need to buy one of those eccentric chain adjuster tools?
 
Wind Shear said:
i doubt you’ll get it off without an impact gun.
Torque spec is 170NM+
I’ve tried for fun, didn’t take too much jumping/pushing before I grabbed the impact.
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If a torque wrench puts it on, you should be able to get it off by hand. Impact does make things a lot faster and easier.

Assuming the non-impact rated socket has similar meat, I'd be amazed if it didn't last a home gamer their entire life even if used with a gun. If price is in the ballpark, no reason not to buy the softer rated socket though.
 
GreyGhost said:
If a torque wrench puts it on, you should be able to get it off by hand. Impact does make things a lot faster and easier.

Assuming the non-impact rated socket has similar meat, I'd be amazed if it didn't last a home gamer their entire life even if used with a gun. If price is in the ballpark, no reason not to buy the softer rated socket though.
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Price is only a few dollars different... I was more worried with people claiming that using impacts marred their fasteners... but yeah, just as many users claiming that they couldn't get the fastener off without using an impact.

What bums me is I ordered the tires a few days ago and could probably have gotten the socket in time for this weekend... but no.
 
GreyGhost said:
If a torque wrench puts it on, you should be able to get it off by hand. Impact does make things a lot faster and easier.

Assuming the non-impact rated socket has similar meat, I'd be amazed if it didn't last a home gamer their entire life even if used with a gun. If price is in the ballpark, no reason not to buy the softer rated socket though.
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That assumes the last person to put it on didn't over-torque it with an impact gun. I always use an impact socket even when I'm the one that torqued it properly. It's a major pain in the butt to remove with a breaker bar by yourself because you need to be standing on the rear brake (assuming it even works) while trying to turn the breaker bar precisely along the same axis as the wheel so it doesn't slip off the nut and damage the nut, wheel, or anything else in the vicinity.
 
NuggyBuggy said:
Price is only a few dollars different... I was more worried with people claiming that using impacts marred their fasteners... but yeah, just as many users claiming that they couldn't get the fastener off without using an impact.

What bums me is I ordered the tires a few days ago and could probably have gotten the socket in time for this weekend... but no.
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Put some tape around the fasteners to lessen the marring. Mine are already chewed up, so I don't bother. Also, since it's a nut and not a bolt with a head you don't want to shear off, you can use the highest setting on your impact to get it off with as few beats as possible which also decreases the marring on the nut.
 
Relax said:
Put some tape around the fasteners to lessen the marring. Mine are already chewed up, so I don't bother. Also, since it's a nut and not a bolt with a head you don't want to shear off, you can use the highest setting on your impact to get it off with as few beats as possible which also decreases the marring on the nut.
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My impact only has one setting for reverse. I did put larger hose in the garage that makes a huge difference. I normally use 3/4" hose into a regulator into a 6' 1/2" stinger into the gun. V-style fittings. That makes a huge difference over typical 1/4" or 3/8" hose. It's like an entirely different gun. If something is ridiculously tight, ditch the stinger and it hits a bit harder but is awkward as regulator is attached to gun.
 
I've found a few very large impact sockets at Princess Auto, in the Surplus Section. They're labeled for suspension components on cars. There's an odd assortment, always changing. Sometimes they have the one you want. They look pretty decent and they're cheap. Likely not Snap On quality, but they have a lot of meat on them due to the size, so I couldn't imagine breaking one.
 
Saved this post for when I need to remove the Monster's rear tire.
 
Not sure which Ducati you have, but my DesertX cames with a 12-point 36mm nut rated for 180Nm.

I bought a socket from Amazon and paired it with a 2' breaker bar:

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The 180Nm was a dealbreaker for trailside repairs (I am *NOT* carrying a 2' breaker bar with me everywhere I go), so I got a replacement nut from Vanasche:

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The nut has two stepped sizes: a 32mm and 36mm hex. I can now use the 32mm wrench at the end of one of my tire levers for trailside tire repairs, and a 36mm socket when I'm at home with larger tools.

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120Nm is very doable with a 10" lever.
 
NuggyBuggy said:
So, I need to replace my front and rear tires. Given that the wheels need to be removed with a socket that is not common, I figured I would buy the tool, remove them myself and take them somewhere to have the tires mounted.

It looks like this is pretty much the only option I can find in Canada: https://fortnine.ca/en/bikeservice-ducati-wheel-nut-impact-socket-bse05551

Recommendations on what I should get here and how I should proceed? I'm planning on buying the impact socket just in case I can't get the rear off with a breaker bar.

Do I need to buy one of those eccentric chain adjuster tools?
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I have this one from when I owned my Multistrada and it’s very good quality.
I read the same thing about needing an impact to take it off and although I used my impact a regular wrench would have easily taken it off. Didn’t need anything fancy for the front tire nut.
 
85K100 said:
I've found a few very large impact sockets at Princess Auto, in the Surplus Section. They're labeled for suspension components on cars. There's an odd assortment, always changing. Sometimes they have the one you want. They look pretty decent and they're cheap. Likely not Snap On quality, but they have a lot of meat on them due to the size, so I couldn't imagine breaking one.
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I bought those for my other bikes, but when I needed one for a Diavel (large hub), they didn't them in that size but I found one of FBMP cheap.

BTW, the PA sockets are 3/4" drive, so you need a 1/2 to 3/4 adapter. Also, they have a pronounced chamfer on the end, so they slip easier than you would think if they're not completely flat on the nut. This is also why I use an impact for removal. Some people machine off the lip to make it completely flat, which is a great idea if you can get it done for less than the cost of a dedicated socket. I couldn't, so I just take it slow.
 
GreyGhost said:
My impact only has one setting for reverse. I did put larger hose in the garage that makes a huge difference. I normally use 3/4" hose into a regulator into a 6' 1/2" stinger into the gun. V-style fittings. That makes a huge difference over typical 1/4" or 3/8" hose. It's like an entirely different gun. If something is ridiculously tight, ditch the stinger and it hits a bit harder but is awkward as regulator is attached to gun.
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Yep, 1/4" is pretty useless. Same impact gun couldn't get the rear wheel nut off the first time I tried, but as soon as I switched from 1/4 to 3/8, it spun off like nothing. I recently bought 1/2" hose because of Torque Test Channel.Would have bought 3/4, but can't justify the price yet. I have a DeWalt DCF899HP2 electric impact gun, and only really need the compressor for my air hammer.


 
Relax said:
Yep, 1/4" is pretty useless. Same impact gun couldn't get the rear wheel nut off the first time I tried, but as soon as I switched from 1/4 to 3/8, it spun off like nothing. I recently bought 1/2" hose because of Torque Test Channel.Would have bought 3/4, but can't justify the price yet. I have a DeWalt DCF899HP2 electric impact gun, and only really need the compressor for my air hammer.


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In locations where I need long airlines with intermittent demand, I run 100' 1/4" to a 5 gallon pig and 3/8" or 1/2" from the pig to the tool. Similar to a capacitor, that gives you close to full pressure at the tool even though there is a severe flow restriction in the system.
 
After doing more reading - I see guys talking about having broken their breaker bars on these nuts.

When I get the right socket, I think I'll buy an impact gun. I only have a small compressor that does 2.4 CFM at 90 PSI. Not sure if that will be enough. Or I could go electric.

It's very interesting.

First, I've seen more than a few people claim their battery-powered impact gun could loosen a fastener that their pneumatic couldn't budge. I also found a few posts where people claimed 3/4" impacts wouldn't move the nut but a 1/2" would.

Both go against what I thought I understood - but maybe people are comparing different grades of tools?
 
NuggyBuggy said:
After doing more reading - I see guys talking about having broken their breaker bars on these nuts.

When I get the right socket, I think I'll buy an impact gun. I only have a small compressor that does 2.4 CFM at 90 PSI. Not sure if that will be enough. Or I could go electric.

It's very interesting.

First, I've seen more than a few people claim their battery-powered impact gun could loosen a fastener that their pneumatic couldn't budge. I also found a few posts where people claimed 3/4" impacts wouldn't move the nut but a 1/2" would.

Both go against what I thought I understood - but maybe people are comparing different grades of tools?
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Compressor cfm barely matters for this. It can charge for a few minutes and then hammer for 10 seconds then wait a few minutes to charge again. Hose size/length and fittings matter a lot. I have a decent corded electric gun (dewalt). It hits far lighter than my air gun. My brother has possesion of it right now as he doesn't have an air gun and it's better than nothing. It can take minutes to do what the air gun does in seconds. I haven't tried the battery guns, they apparently work amazingly well. They come in multiple power levels. It's hard to compare from random anecdotes.
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