Glenn/RZ500
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I`d see that move as political suicide, not that a technocratic dictator cares though. He is a sneaky, lying bastard, let`s hope not.
Reverse mortgage...redux
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Gaoler
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Since when does that matter.. LoL
The LPC has done so many things that "should" have buried them, yet... they somehow still exist.
Is he really.. or is this coming from the consultant report from the conference a couple of years ago that was brought up during the election?
He needs to raise revenue by 11 figures. He is increasing spending and promised to reduce taxes. The budget does not balance itself.
The trick is to keep talking about it until people no longer pay attention. When you fall asleep, they drop the bomb and say "Why are you surprised? We've been talking about it for ages."
Shades of Soylent Green but if they cut Medicare to seniors the government saves money. More seniors die and the government gets access to RRIF taxes, Cap gains, probate fees, HST on funerals.
Glenn/RZ500
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How`s that go?..... Oh yeah! The best government is a benevolent dictatorship tempered by an occasional assassination. You know, to keep them in line.
If your plan is to live large and give zero f*cks about the house when it's all said and done, who cares? Do they do inspections inside and outside at any point or is this just a "you should now do this" type letters in the mail? If it's just "you really should do this to protect your (and our) asset, just ignore it all - when you expire, you won't care, and if there's nobody at the end that's going to see any equity when the house is sold anyways (or isn't on the hook for any of the bills), just F it all.
LTC is fully subsidized by the province if you can't afford it. My dad did it right, he sold his business and retired a bit early, lived life, bought what he wanted when he wanted it, set aside a little bit of money for the 4 kids (and somehow it was structured that it was untouchable) and when he want into LTC there wasn't much left, so they took his CPP and OAS every month minus a $200 stipend (for things like haircuts and a few dinners out ever month) and the rest was subsidized. He had a nice semi private room at Hillsdale in Oshawa (and a modern semi is basically a private room with just a shared bath) and he seemed pretty content and had great care.
It sure seemed like a fine idea to me, why skid into a nursing home with hundreds of thousands of dollars in your bank only to see it all go to the nursing home, particularly if it's a for-profit one. Screw that, I'm spending that **** lol. My health isn't great, my job has already taken a great physical toll on me to the point where I'm in constant pain already in my 50's (which then impacts my ability to be as physically active as I'd like, which then becomes a vicious circle with weight gain etc), so I expect by the mid 70's to early 80's (if I even make it that far) I'll be wanting to have that chat with my kids.
MAID is more complicated than just deciding to apply on a whim, there are requirements. But there's also other options like talking to your family and making your intentions and desires clear, just taking one of the cocktails you can find the ingredients for easily online, and then telling one of those family members that they should "come check on you" tomorrow morning at 9AM, and then climbing into bed to doze off.
Forever.
WIth my luck I'd survive and end up like this lol.
If I'm going out on my own accord at some point I want the peaceful quiet method, not the potential "oh **** I didn't expect to wake up from this, why are there hoses in every orifice?!" method lol.
Mad Mike
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LTC is a benefit for all Ontario residents - rich or poor. A private room is about $3k, semi private $2.2k - doesn’t matter how poor or wealthy you are.
On my dads floor, several residents were multi-millionaires, some were penniless pensioners - all got the same great care. Better than the $15k/month care at a local private facility.
Not all LTC homes are great, we got lucky and had a great experience.
Not all attempts are successful. One case was to be death by subway train but they survived and continued on in life looking like they had been hit by a train.
One of my classmates from uni opted for MAID in Ontario due to Alzheimers and partner and I have been chatting about it tho rules are different in Australia.
Still this was inspiring ......
www.abc.net.au
After seeing my mother make 97 and a complete "no memories" but happy and involved in the nursing home, I'm a tad conflicted.
She had no health concerns, she just died of old age.
So is a very limited but with the appearance of being happy existence "better" than just pulling the plug.
I've got three nurses in the immediate family all younger than me including partner and their mum died mostly peacefully ( at times cranky ) at one their homes after a few months.
Prior to that she was in a care home near the beach that she was engaged with and enjoyed.
She had some wealth to use for that care and some remainder came to the kids.
I have zilch to support any care cost cept my Canada pension which would not go far however Australia is a good nanny state so....
It appears demographically that aging out in care may help the pressure on getting new homes built...a problem both here and in Canada as the cohort is very large. It also suggests that the care home may cost less than assisted home living.
Very confusing.
Most likely partner will decide as I can feel myself deteriorating mentally at 78 tho both parents cracked 95 ....one completely without memory the other sharp as a tack and still driving legally.
Take it a day at a time and enjoy the time left I guess and happy I'm still out riding on a sunny but very humid day in tropical Cairns.
Still this was inspiring ......
World-first organ donation as mum self-administers VAD medication
An Australian woman is believed to have become the first person in the world to donate organs after self-administering oral voluntary assisted dying medication.
www.abc.net.au
After seeing my mother make 97 and a complete "no memories" but happy and involved in the nursing home, I'm a tad conflicted.
She had no health concerns, she just died of old age.
So is a very limited but with the appearance of being happy existence "better" than just pulling the plug.
I've got three nurses in the immediate family all younger than me including partner and their mum died mostly peacefully ( at times cranky ) at one their homes after a few months.
Prior to that she was in a care home near the beach that she was engaged with and enjoyed.
She had some wealth to use for that care and some remainder came to the kids.
I have zilch to support any care cost cept my Canada pension which would not go far however Australia is a good nanny state so....
This is a moving target as the population ages out and more options on offer from state and fed govs.
It appears demographically that aging out in care may help the pressure on getting new homes built...a problem both here and in Canada as the cohort is very large. It also suggests that the care home may cost less than assisted home living.
Very confusing.Most likely partner will decide as I can feel myself deteriorating mentally at 78 tho both parents cracked 95 ....one completely without memory the other sharp as a tack and still driving legally.
Take it a day at a time and enjoy the time left I guess and happy I'm still out riding on a sunny but very humid day in tropical Cairns.
Apparently the rules for MaiD are different and more accommodating in Quebec.One of my classmates from uni opted for MAID in Ontario due to Alzheimers and partner and I have been chatting about it tho rules are different in Australia.
Still this was inspiring ......
World-first organ donation as mum self-administers VAD medication
An Australian woman is believed to have become the first person in the world to donate organs after self-administering oral voluntary assisted dying medication.
After seeing my mother make 97 and a complete "no memories" but happy and involved in the nursing home, I'm a tad conflicted.
She had no health concerns, she just died of old age.
So is a very limited but with the appearance of being happy existence "better" than just pulling the plug.
I've got three nurses in the immediate family all younger than me including partner and their mum died mostly peacefully ( at times cranky ) at one their homes after a few months.
Prior to that she was in a care home near the beach that she was engaged with and enjoyed.
She had some wealth to use for that care and some remainder came to the kids.
I have zilch to support any care cost cept my Canada pension which would not go far however Australia is a good nanny state so....
This is a moving target as the population ages out and more options on offer from state and fed govs.
It appears demographically that aging out in care may help the pressure on getting new homes built...a problem both here and in Canada as the cohort is very large. It also suggests that the care home may cost less than assisted home living.
Most likely partner will decide as I can feel myself deteriorating mentally at 78 tho both parents cracked 95 ....one completely without memory the other sharp as a tack and still driving legally.
Take it a day at a time and enjoy the time left I guess and happy I'm still out riding on a sunny but very humid day in tropical Cairns.
My afterlife includes allowing my survivors some financial benefits and the freedom to live their own lives unburdened of the spoon feeding and diapering of an unresponsive lump of meat.
Who are the "Keep-them-alive" crowd?
Are they vested in long term care?
Are they religious fanatics stuck in their own dogma, believing pain earns you a place in heaven?
I've heard some relate stories about the pain a person goes through as they die.
Huh?
I had two operations last year where my body was invaded, kicked around and chewed up. Both times, all I remember is a anesthetist putting a mask over my face and saying count backwards from ten. I remember getting to five, then waking up in a different room, virtually pain free.
If all hadn't gone well I could have instead awakened to the smell of a BBQ or, on the other hand, a fabric softener commercial with masses of angels.
If it was the latter, I'd miss all you guys.
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