The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

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Katatonic said:
For reference, the trailer was loaded with pallets of eggs on their way to a processing plant, and pallets of eggs ain’t lightweight cargo!
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Yeah, but still shouldn't be a problem. Those trailers are built to haul at least 45,000# if they're sold in Canada as we're allowed to haul 10K more on a tandem tandem setup than they are in the USA, and I'm pretty sure 24/26 skids of eggs aren't more than 20-30K tops.

I used to haul 50,000# loads of aluminum coils on tandem trailers to and from quebec.
 
PrivatePilot said:
As for all the other overweight tickets, if they setup anywhere where they were getting gravel trucks, that doesn't surprise me at all. Aggregate haulers are the worst of the worst for overloading and driving unmaintained dangerous junk. If you see an aggregate truck out on the road anywhere, keep your distance. If you're on 2 wheels, drop a gear and disappear.
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They are also the most aggressive drivers out there and most of they likely got their "A" licence from one of those sketchy Truck Driving Schools! I've had two instances where a gravel truck exiting the pit at Hockley Road and 5 Sideroad failed to stop at the stop sign before going straight onto Hockley Road. Hell, they didn't even try to slow down and just continued at speed onto Hockley Road. Both times were clear fail to yield and would have resulted in me being under the trailer had I not emergency braked.
 
Agree on all counts. This is what happens when you work in a cutthroat portion of the industry paid by the load and full of other people doing the same thing who will drive like a complete idiot just to get ahead of everyone else in an attempt to undercut the other guys.
 
GreyGhost said:
Selectively cut video so not sure what started this. Car driver deserves to have their license permanently revoked. Cyclist needs to be smarter, you could see this going poorly and they left themselves in a vulnerable location.

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Did the cyclist just move across 3 active lanes and cut the car off? Bit of a moron if you ask me. Car driver definitely deserves a license suspension though, and maybe anger management courses.
 
GreyGhost said:
Is this a new record? CMV Stopped Saturday in South Porcupine (four tickets), Sunday in Val cote (four tickets), sunday again near Smooth Rock falls (16 tickets and removed from service).

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A southern Ontario driver has been charged with 24 Highway Traffic Act (HTA) offences this weekend, police say.

As a result of the OPP investigation, the 45-year-old driver from Brampton was charged with 24 total offences:

  • Careless driving (three counts)
  • Driver failing to surrender licence (three counts)
  • Failing to surrender inspection schedule (two counts)
  • Failing to enter defect in daily inspection report (two counts)
  • Improperly driving a commercial motor vehicle with a minor defect in it
  • Unnecessary slow driving (two counts)
  • Failing to maintain daily log (two counts)
  • Failing to take 10 hours off in a day
  • Exceeding 13 hours driving time without eight hours off
  • Driving after 14 hours on duty without eight hours off
  • Driving after 16 hours since last break without eight hours off
  • Failing to surrender daily log
  • Driver in possession of more that one daily log
  • Failing to keep record of duty status
  • Failing to manually input information into ELD
  • Entering inaccurate information in record
Additionally, the owner of the CVM from Edmonton, Alta was charged with requesting, requiring or allowing a driver not to comply with section 18 of HTA, failing to surrender inspection, two counts of failing to enter defect in daily inspection report and improperly driving a commercial motor vehicle with a minor defect.
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You can take the driver out of Brampton, but you can't take the Brampton out of the driver.....
 
GreyGhost said:
Selectively cut video so not sure what started this. Car driver deserves to have their license permanently revoked. Cyclist needs to be smarter, you could see this going poorly and they left themselves in a vulnerable location.

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I'm not going to try and justify using your vehicle as a deadly weapon. I am going to say that there's a lot more to that story, than what appears in the video. Both the car and the cyclist are left of the centre line when the video begins. Something happened to precipitate that confrontation.
 
Another tractor trailer acting as a hammer in a construction zone and crushing people in a car. This happens far too often. They've already theoretically implemented speed limiters on Ontario trucks would it be reasonable to force emergency braking too? Probably wouldn't stop these situations but would at least remove some energy from the crash.

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Had quite the little adventure coming home from work last Thursday. The construction crew on Shuter forced me to turn off at Bond, despite access being open right to Yonge. Almost got taken out on Bond by a White Van (tm) that was driving down the middle (yes, the middle) of Bond, with no consideration for the fact that the row of parked vehicles on the west side meant I didn't have anywhere to move over to. Fortunately there was just enough gap to cut in between two parked cars and panic stop, so I didn't end up in a head-on collision. No idea what this idiot was doing that he couldn't see the danger he was causing.

Of course Bond terminates at Queen so I had to cut all the way over to John, before I could make a legal turn to get to Spadina. Turn left onto John and...


(Sorry for the volume. The source is 4K and I still haven't worked out how to properly use DaVinci Resolve, so this is the raw video.)
 
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Had quite the little adventure coming home from work last Thursday. The construction crew on Shuter forced me to turn off at Bond, despite access being open right to Yonge. Almost got taken out on Bond by a White Van (tm) that was driving down the middle (yes, the middle) of Bond, with no consideration for the fact that the row of parked vehicles on the west side meant I didn't have anywhere to move over to. Fortunately there was just enough gap to cut in between two parked cars and panic stop, so I didn't end up in a head-on collision. No idea what this idiot was doing that he couldn't see the danger he was causing.

Of course Bond terminates at Queen so I had to cut all the way over to john, before I could make a legal turn to get to Spadina. Turn left onto John and...


(Sorry for the volume. The source is 4K and I still haven't worked out how to properly use DaVinci Resolve, so this is the raw video.)
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That looks like a black Chrysler? rather than a white van tm and the caption says John St. Looks like Queen St as well.
 
GreyGhost said:
Ummm, this press release is useless without pics. How do you end up 40,000 kg overweight? They caught someone crossing a 5 ton limited bridge? @PrivatePilot any ideas how you could get this far over?

They pulled over 13 trucks and 9 were overweight with four removed from service. Yes, they were probably targeting specific classes of truck but wtf, that is a crazy percentage.

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"Public complaints concerning overweight loads sent police on a truck enforcement blitz.
The Grey Bruce OPP would also like to share one occurrence of note - in which a loaded commercial motor vehicle was operating while 40,000 kg overweight."
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A trucker, hauling small lots of livestock, only registered his vehicle for its bare weight. Doing small runs and keeping off the highways, away from the scales, he got away with it for a while. Then he went rally cheap and replaced a lost mud flap with a burlap bag. That got him noticed by the police and life suddenly got expensive.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Unclear if it was 40K overweight for the bridge they were doing enforcement at, or 40K overweight. That's over 80,000# overweight which seems really unlikely unless it was a steel hauler or something. It might have been someone 40K over their *registered* weight, IE they tried to save money by getting a cheap plate sticker vs paying for their actual weight they use the truck for.

But yeah, unclear.

As for all the other overweight tickets, if they setup anywhere where they were getting gravel trucks, that doesn't surprise me at all. Aggregate haulers are the worst of the worst for overloading and driving unmaintained dangerous junk. If you see an aggregate truck out on the road anywhere, keep your distance. If you're on 2 wheels, drop a gear and disappear.
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Dirt taxis.
 
How to mess up your life in a three seconds.

This afternoon I was headed east on Bloor Street at the Humber River. Light traffic but there was a car parked up ahead just past the bridge. A blue car was following a black car in the right lane and I think they both saw the parked car and reacted.

The blue car switched lanes but the black one accelerated and cut in ahead of the blue. Blue aggressively swung into the right lane and tried to pass on the right but got caught, blocked by the black (There was another car in front of black) and without enough time or space to avoid the parked car.

I stopped and the chick driving the blue car was an emotional mess with a possible sore leg. The guy sitting in the parked car was OK but needs a new quarter panel and bumper. Blue car was bleeding fluids, wheel dislocated and pretty messed up front end. Air bags deployed all around.

The black car continued on and one could debate whether the driver was aware of what happened behind him.

It would be tempting to say "Serves you right" but she was so emotionally devastated that any criticism would be beyond cruel. It's going to be an expensive lesson.

A slightly contributing factor was that the parked car had its right wheels about 18" from the curb. Legal max is 12".

I don't think she would have made it either way but there might have been a bit less damage.
 
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How to mess up your life in a three seconds.

This afternoon I was headed east on Bloor Street at the Humber River. Light traffic but there was a car parked up ahead just past the bridge. A blue car was following a black car in the right lane and I think they both saw the parked car and reacted.

The blue car switched lanes but the black one accelerated and cut in ahead of the blue. Blue aggressively swung into the right lane and tried to pass on the right but got caught, blocked by the black (There was another car in front of black) and without enough time or space to avoid the parked car.

I stopped and the chick driving the blue car was an emotional mess with a possible sore leg. The guy sitting in the parked car was OK but needs a new quarter panel and bumper. Blue car was bleeding fluids, wheel dislocated and pretty messed up front end. Air bags deployed all around.

The black car continued on and one could debate whether the driver was aware of what happened behind him.

It would be tempting to say "Serves you right" but she was so emotionally devastated that any criticism would be beyond cruel. It's going to be an expensive lesson.

A slightly contributing factor was that the parked car had its right wheels about 18" from the curb. Legal max is 12".

I don't think she would have made it either way but there might have been a bit less damage.
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May years ago a "friend" (as in not a friend anymore, for various reasons) made a quip about never having been in an accident. I remarked, "Have you ever looked behind you?" He was... unimpressed with that question.

Lately I've been watching a lot of traffic videos, on Youtube. It's patently amazing how many of the camera operators have no ability for introspection. Car in left lane is signalling right so they decide to speed up and pass to the right, and are amazed that they get hit. See a car coming down the merge lane on the highway at a slower speed than they're going and squeeze the car out at the end of the merge, instead of moving over, then get mad at the other driver. That sort of thing.

Also amazing how many videos, on US based Youtube channels, show traffic in Toronto, Mississauga, or Brampton.
 
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First time this has happened to my youngest.
 
Baggsy said:
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First time this has happened to my youngest.
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I've had a 10 foot sheet of ice lift off a trailer, right in front of me, and the only thing that saved me was panic braking with ABS. Wish that I'd gotten *that* on camera, because it would have gone straight to OPP and the transport company.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
I've had a 10 foot sheet of ice lift off a trailer, right in front of me, and the only thing that saved me was panic braking with ABS. Wish that I'd gotten *that* on camera, because it would have gone straight to OPP and the transport company.
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I was coming back, at night, from Chalk River one winter driving at around the limit on Hwy 28. Every time I tried to go faster I got a white out. This went on for hours until I came to a stop sign and realized there was a transport in front of me and his back draft had covered the back of his trailer, obscuring his lights, at the same time blasting me with snow.
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