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River Road - Nov 5th 2022

justride

justride

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River road has been repaved and is in excellent condition. Google streetview is outdated.
Heads up. Unmarked OPP Ford sedan was there on Saturday (Side road 20 and hwy 18) so take it easy on the straights.
It's pretty much 50km through out the area. Easy pickings for the OPP!
 
Was very quiet on Friday and combined it with a run up through Pretty River and then back to Creemore for lunch.

Thankfully River Road is a longer ride to get there so keeps the numbers down compared with the Forks.
 
justride said:
River road has been repaved and is in excellent condition. Google streetview is outdated.
Heads up. Unmarked OPP Ford sedan was there on Saturday (Side road 20 and hwy 18) so take it easy on the straights.
It's pretty much 50km through out the area. Easy pickings for the OPP!
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the locals also seem to use those golf cart lawn mowers on the shoulders, kicking up dirt/gravel/grass in the corners.
but at least the pavement will be nice now.
 
Did River Rd both ways today. The slow right-hander (from Horning Mills side) had dirt/gravel mid-corner. Not having oncoming traffic helped. The pavement is in great condition but the speed limit is now 50 for most parts. I remember it used to be 60 before?
 
I rode it on October 21st; I think they might have just laid the asphalt that week! Beautiful smooth surface and the section between Kilgorie and Prince of Wales now offers better and safer traction around the tight turns in that area. Just watch out for the gravel kicked up by motorists who just can't seem to keep all their tires on the asphalt!

The bonus is the new surface will make it easier for everyone, including the locals to exceed the new ludicrously low 50 kph limit, so hopefully those who demanded the drop to the limit will also be caught by the heavy enforcement on weekends.
 
STARSHIP said:
Was very quiet on Friday and combined it with a run up through Pretty River and then back to Creemore for lunch.

Thankfully River Road is a longer ride to get there so keeps the numbers down compared with the Forks.
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I also did this loop on a Friday (October 21). Nice ride, very little traffic and no enforcement to be seen. Pretty River Parkway was deserted, even though the colours were still pretty good at the time. River Road was a nice road, before the 50 kph limits and Community Safety Zones, but it is now too much like Forks with more traffic, painfully low speed limits and more enforcement. As a result I prefer County Road 9 from Maple Valley to Creemore. The fact that most of CR 9 is posted at 80 kph means riding at 95 kph is not as big a ticket.
 
Malks said:
I rode it on October 21st; I think they might have just laid the asphalt that week! Beautiful smooth surface and the section between Kilgorie and Prince of Wales now offers better and safer traction around the tight turns in that area.
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Townships up North (ie 507) should hire the same paving company to do all the roads!
 
I was on it yesterday. 50 km/h is painful but it was neat being able to see deep into the forests with the leaves gone and seeing homes set back far from the road.
 
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We are listening Dufferin County. Several complaints of sport bikes speeding in the Mulmur area led to a Central Region TIME officer stopping 7 bikes on 20th Sideroad in Mulmer.
7 drivers charged with stunt,
7 DL’s suspended for 30 days,
7 bikes impounded for 14 days. Lucky #7
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#slowdown #takeittothetrack
#DufferinOPP
 
matthew said:
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Ontario Provincial Police - Central Region

We are listening Dufferin County. Several complaints of sport bikes speeding in the Mulmur area led to a Central Region TIME officer stopping 7 bikes on 20th Sideroad in Mulmer. 7 drivers charged...
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Ontario Provincial Police - Central Region​

tSspreodnoh18ctm2046l1h79g50gfa37ug25h4h23f7imu7h77t50i614hc ·

We are listening Dufferin County. Several complaints of sport bikes speeding in the Mulmur area led to a Central Region TIME officer stopping 7 bikes on 20th Sideroad in Mulmer.
7 drivers charged with stunt,
7 DL’s suspended for 30 days,
7 bikes impounded for 14 days. Lucky #7
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#slowdown #takeittothetrack
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Wtf why would all seven stop rule was always one stops only

Sent from the future
 
justride said:
Townships up North (ie 507) should hire the same paving company to do all the roads!
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Yes, the quality of the recent 507 paving is very poor.

I have no clue as to how asphalt is graded in terms of quality vs. cost. Is the County consciously spec'ing low grade asphalt in their RFP documents to save money or is the contractor using a low grade asphalt to save on project cost and getting away with it due to lack of inspection or quality enforcement?
 
Was 50km speed limit in the area in placed due to legitimate safety concerns or the locals just do not want motorcycle riders in the area? Speed limits are set based on what the locals want or the engineers who built the roads?
 
justride said:
Was 50km speed limit in the area in placed due to legitimate safety concerns or the locals just do not want motorcycle riders in the area? Speed limits are set based on what the locals want or the engineers who built the roads?
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Almost no speed limits have anything to do with engineering or science anymore. They are almost exclusively the domain of politicians and pandering. Same with stop signs. They are not allowed to be used as speed control devices but pay attention to how many four way stops there are with almost zero traffic on one street. Stop signs on the minor street only would improve flow, reduce emissions etc. but politicians want to meddle.
 
justride said:
Was 50km speed limit in the area in placed due to legitimate safety concerns or the locals just do not want motorcycle riders in the area? Speed limits are set based on what the locals want or the engineers who built the roads?
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20 minutes from where I live. Locals complaining 100%. I've seen a few on the road with their phones recording motorcycles going by. I've been recorded myself on the bike. In their defence, if they are having issues with sport bikes flying by doing 100km/h or excessively loud exhausts all weekend, then well, I'd complain too. A few can ruin it for the rest of us.
I'm all for enjoying the ride and pushing over limits within reason, but at the same time we have to have some respect for those that live there.
Just my opinion.
 
GreyGhost said:
Almost no speed limits have anything to do with engineering or science anymore. They are almost exclusively the domain of politicians and pandering. Same with stop signs. They are not allowed to be used as speed control devices but pay attention to how many four way stops there are with almost zero traffic on one street. Stop signs on the minor street only would improve flow, reduce emissions etc. but politicians want to meddle.
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I think it was a physics class where I heard that the highway speed limits were originally set by engineers so that in conjunction with the camber/crown of the road, you didn't actually need any steering input to keep the car in its lane for its entire length. Along the same lines, the speed warnings for on/off-ramps were also set by engineers to represent the maximum speed you can maintain and not slip off the road if there was zero friction. I don't think either are still true, though, either because they no longer care, or the road conditions have degraded so much from the original specifications.
 
Relax said:
I think it was a physics class where I heard that the highway speed limits were originally set by engineers so that in conjunction with the camber/crown of the road, you didn't actually need any steering input to keep the car in its lane for its entire length. Along the same lines, the speed warnings for on/off-ramps were also set by engineers to represent the maximum speed you can maintain and not slip off the road if there was zero friction. I don't think either are still true, though, either because they no longer care, or the road conditions have degraded so much from the original specifications.
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I dont think design speed went quite that far as the banking required would make you slide to the inside if you were below design speed. In the past I looked for a good discussion on design speed but didnt come up with anything satisfying. It is very clear that more and more roads are posting speed limits 30 or more km/h below design speed. If you want vehicles to slow down, you make road feel narrower and shorten sight lines. If you want to fundraise, you change the number on the sign.
 
My understanding was that they originally had a vehicle with a pendulum in it, and the pendulum couldn't swing over a certain amount at the speed limit.
 
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