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The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

Not in ontario, however... Touring U.S. punk band linked to dragging that left Vancouver woman with horrific injuries

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He’s absolutely free to continue on with his life and go where he needs to go until the time comes, if it comes that there’s a significant development in the case,” said Addison.
“We believe that the driver had a degree of alcohol impairment, I can’t speak to what level that alcohol impairment was. Our investigation is trying to determine what role, if any, that alcohol impairment had in the tragic incident."
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"Evancio has been left with devastating injuries, including the loss of an eye, massive facial trauma and a potential loss of complete mobility in one arm and one leg.
She has already undergone four surgeries, and surgeons have told her sister they may want to try a face transplant — something never before performed in B.C."

After all that, he's free to go, no charges. I'm truly stumped and shocked. He dragged her multiple blocks.
 
She walked between the teailer and van while it was stopped at a light??? Da fuq. Obviously she didnt deserve to be horribly disfigured for that move, but how dumb are people?
 
Sure, but are drivers expected to check that there is no one being dragged by the trailer that they are towing?

Bear in mind that the tow vehicle was a commercial van, which probably means ... no back windows (and even if it had back windows, there is limited view out through them). Even if the van was a late model one with a back-up camera ... it wasn't backing up, so that camera wouldn't have been on. It would be a remarkable coincidence for the driver to just happen to be watching his mirrors (while planning to drive forward!) and see the pedestrian go in behind the van (between van and trailer) and not come out the other side. Otherwise, the driver cannot see a person back there.
 
J-Walking shouldn't be a death sentence but, then again, drivers shouldn't necessarily be held responsible for the consequences resulting from the illegal act of someone else.
 
Apparently she was dragged six or seven blocks. Just horrific injuries, brain exposed, left arm doesn't work, lots broken.

It's a ****** situation all around. I don't know if there is much the driver could have done. If they didn't see her going through (which is easily possible if lots of people are walking around your vehicle), given the size, weight and noise of the vehicle, the driver probably had no indication that things were going so wrong.
 
Watched the clip of the band in the article. They should be charged for calling themselves punk.
 
This is horrific and terrible accident.

I am not sure why this was posted here. It doesn't seem like the driver did anything wrong.
If someone is going to deliberately put themselves in harms way, they should be accountable for the consequences.
I know that might seem harsh, but there is a safe places for pedestrians to cross intersections, streets etc for a reason.

Hopefully something good comes out of this as it is quite tragic.
 
sburns said:
This is horrific and terrible accident.

I am not sure why this was posted here. It doesn't seem like the driver did anything wrong.
If someone is going to deliberately put themselves in harms way, they should be accountable for the consequences.
I know that might seem harsh, but there is a safe places for pedestrians to cross intersections, streets etc for a reason.

Hopefully something good comes out of this as it is quite tragic.
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Well initial reports were basically driver had a degree of impairment and dragged woman blocks. It wasnt until later that mitigating details were released.
 
Isnt this another Corolla? It looks like traction was good and they were hard on the brakes and submarined the cop car. Not sure how they ended up directly behind a cop with a huge speed differential.
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Baggsy said:
Cyclist should have been charged rather than the driver.
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Not instead. Maybe as well. Technically you arent supposed to ride across when using the pedestrian crossing. They waited until the signal changed to go though. I suspect the careless charge is more what happened after the contact with the bike. Adding tons of energy to a situation after a crash is at best careless. If the merc stopped at the bike contact I'm not sure they would have drawn a ticket.
 
GreyGhost said:
Not instead. Maybe as well. Technically you arent supposed to ride across when using the pedestrian crossing. They waited until the signal changed to go though. I suspect the careless charge is more what happened after the contact with the bike. Adding tons of energy to a situation after a crash is at best careless. If the merc stopped at the bike contact I'm not sure they would have drawn a ticket.
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For me there's no "technically" about it. Either you're discouraged from carelessly riding on the sidewalk, riding across crosswalks, and riding from the sidewalk into traffic, or you're allowed and the pedestrians, and other vehicles are required to watch out for and protect you. The later seems to be what's happening here. As far as the car going into the oncoming traffic, I believe that was to avoid killing the cyclist, once they managed to make it in front of the car. Had he maintained his turning radius, he would most likely have run over the cyclist rather than the bike. Bikes travel faster than pedestrians, they're a vehicle. They need to stay on the road or within a bike lane. Neither of which occurred here. Cyclists need to help protect themselves, and be predictable, not do whatever they want, and hope others can cope. I could understand if both received tickets, but the cyclist would be primary and the driver secondary, if that were the case.
 
What if the person on the bike was a jogger, or runner...

I think the car driver was completely at fault, they didn't even look, then gunned it into on coming traffic, how absurded was that. Clearly they should not be driving. I understand somewhat your view on the cyclist but they were at least within the crossing zone which the driver should have kept their eyes on.
 
sburns said:
What if the person on the bike was a jogger, or runner...

I think the car driver was completely at fault, they didn't even look, then gunned it into on coming traffic, how absurded was that. Clearly they should not be driving. I understand somewhat your view on the cyclist but they were at least within the crossing zone which the driver should have kept their eyes on.
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Or if he simply got off the bike and walked it across, or it was a bike path and not a sidewalk, or if he'd be turned out to the right on the road, and come up beside the car ... Then I would agree with you.
But he didn't do that, he consistently rode his bike (vehicle) within the pedestrian areas.
 
Baggsy said:
Or if he simply got off the bike and walked it across, or it was a bike path and not a sidewalk, or if he'd be turned out to the right on the road, and come up beside the car ... Then I would agree with you.
But he didn't do that, he consistently rode his bike (vehicle) within the pedestrian areas.
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To be fair, he was going at the speed of a pedestrian. Imo, whether he was walking ornriding is immaterial if he crossed at the appropriate time at the pace of a pedestrian. The fact that he was on a bike had no effect at all on the collision. If he had come up the burb and blasted through the crosswalk at 30 km/h, I am entirely with you, drivers arent expecting that.
 
wtf happened to the car driver, did the air bag go off?
 
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