M2 Exit to M

[SlayerofSouls]

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Quick question, any value in taking the M2 Exit Course? It is 384 plus HST.

Do most of you just take the test straight

 

[gmang35]

I took the test through MTO. It was very easy. I haven't ridden in almost 5 years. I got a bike again a couple months ago just so I can get my M before my M2 expired. I rode for about a month and did the test.

Was planning on only riding to get my M. But once I started riding again I can't stop haha.

 

[Emefef]

Did a search and didnt come up with anything.


Quick question, any value in taking the M2 Exit Course? It is 384 plus HST.

Do most of you just take the test straight

Read any of the recent threads on lane position.
It's easy to learn the basics and demonstrate the required behaviours long enough to pass the test.
Training will help you understand why you're doing it, and the pass rate is significantly higher.

 

[油井緋色]

Did a search and didnt come up with anything.


Quick question, any value in taking the M2 Exit Course? It is 384 plus HST.

Do most of you just take the test straight

I'm taking the test straight. However, I can see how you could EASILY fail it. A friend of mine failed for going 50 through a construction site (supposed to be 40) and duckwaddling constantly (she's short).

Try the test straight and refer to the thread in the law section. My suggestion is spend a week riding with the following habits:

#1. Stop a foot or two before the white line.
#2. Stop a bike or bike and a half behind cars.
#3. Always block (there is almost never a situation where you do not block by MTO standards).
#4. Follow speed limits.
#5. Check your blind spots every half intersection.
#6. Check left right left (or was it right left right?) every intersection.
#7. Double check the blind spot in the direction you are turning before turning.

Some of these I do automatically but I noticed most riders won't do 1, 2, and 4 lol

 

[Emefef]

I'm taking the test straight. However, I can see how you could EASILY fail it. A friend of mine failed for going 50 through a construction site (supposed to be 40) and duckwaddling constantly (she's short).

Try the test straight and refer to the thread in the law section. My suggestion is spend a week riding with the following habits:

#1. Stop a foot or two before the white line.
#2. Stop a bike or bike and a half behind cars.
#3. Always block (there is almost never a situation where you do not block by MTO standards).
#4. Follow speed limits.
#5. Check your blind spots every half intersection.
#6. Check left right left (or was it right left right?) every intersection.
#7. Double check the blind spot in the direction you are turning before turning.

Some of these I do automatically but I noticed most riders won't do 1, 2, and 4 lol

Some clarification and specificity:
#1 Stop before the limit line if there is one, or if not, the pedestrian crossover, and if there are neither, before the intersecting roadway
#2. Leave a full bike length in front of you behind other vehicles. Leave more if it's a large vehicle (truck, bus)
#3. Always be in the CORRECT lane position. There are very specific situations where the simple blocking position is incorrect. (not enough of them to fail, but they are there)
#4. Follow speed limits, but don't be too much under them, because you're creating a hazard.
#5. I don't know what "half" intersection means. Check your blind spot immediately before initiating any turn or lane change. Not necessary for a shift in position within a lane.
#6. Left-right-left (you remember which way if you learn it, instead of just doing it for the test )
#7. One blind spot check is sufficient for the actual turn. If you had to do a lane change to get into a dedicated turn lane, you should have done one way back there, then one immediately before the turn.

Special note for blind spot checks - they should be done before any steering input on the bars, not when you're half leaned into a turn.

 

[油井緋色]

Wait, that reminds me for #3.

If a right turn lane comes up. Do you block that lane or the lane to your left? I would assume which ever has vehicles in it? But I always block the left lane.

 

[Emefef]

Wait, that reminds me for #3.

If a right turn lane comes up. Do you block that lane or the lane to your left? I would assume which ever has vehicles in it? But I always block the left lane.

If you're in a through lane, you generally block the other through lanes. On the highway though, if you were travelling in the right-most lane and an entry lane comes in to your right, you may want to move to the right so the other motorists entering the highway can see you. This is obviously more important when the traffic is more dense. If you're over the to the left with vehicles in front and behind you, the motorists accelerating down the entry lane to pass as many vehicles as then can may see that as a gap and swerve into it, no seeing you until they get part way into the manoeuvre.

 

[油井緋色]

If you're in a through lane, you generally block the other through lanes. On the highway though, if you were travelling in the right-most lane and an entry lane comes in to your right, you may want to move to the right so the other motorists entering the highway can see you. This is obviously more important when the traffic is more dense. If you're over the to the left with vehicles in front and behind you, the motorists accelerating down the entry lane to pass as many vehicles as then can may see that as a gap and swerve into it, no seeing you until they get part way into the manoeuvre.

I'm agreeing with you....but what do they look for on the M test?

 

[Emefef]

I'm agreeing with you....but what do they look for on the M test?

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...iners-and-examiners-know-about-the-real-world

 

[Fenrir Fox]

it's easy if you keep in mind all the advices, practice the route few times, don't waste money (that $ can fail few times)
one more tips is "don't change gear in intersection", I do often and I did at test

 

[JFD]

I know i rode with the wrong people in my m2 days and picked up bad habits in the first two years. Didn't ride for hte next 3. Did my course with RTI and found many things that would've caused me to fail.

These were habits i developed - good luck memorizing a to-do list, while on a test, while trying not to do things you developed as a habit.

The course is NOT a bad thing and there's no badge of honour for taking the test with the MTO. You do learn a lot of good skill through the course.

 

[ZX600]

Did a search and didnt come up with anything.


Quick question, any value in taking the M2 Exit Course? It is 384 plus HST.

Do most of you just take the test straight

There is a whole thread of a bunch of people arguing this same topic over and over...

My experience:
Buy the MTO book and go over it a couple days before the test
Do a search for M2 exit test in this site and find the copy of the exam, read it over and practice riding in this very awkward way for a day

go take the test

 

[Emefef]

There is a whole thread of a bunch of people arguing this same topic over and over...

My experience:
Buy the MTO book and go over it a couple days before the test
Do a search for M2 exit test in this site and find the copy of the exam, read it over and practice riding in this very awkward way for a day

go take the test

My advice if you aren't taking a course - skip the part about the copy of the exam.

 

[ZX600]

My advice if you aren't taking a course - skip the part about the copy of the exam.

Agreed, if you are taking the course, skip all parts of what I said lol. They will show you all the things required to have the knowledge to pass the test, you also have to pay for it tho

Your choice, your money, your peace of mind.... your decision

 

[gmang35]

Another thing I found that helped was to ride my bike according to MTO rules for a week before my test. I was trying to make everything second nature instead of thinking about it the entire time taking the test.

 

[油井緋色]

I'd rahter pay 75 and save 200 + change.

...if I pass, that's $$$ I can use for mods!

 

[Emefef]

There is a whole thread of a bunch of people arguing this same topic over and over...

My experience:
read it over and practice riding in this very awkward way for a day

This is the type of statement that demonstrates either a disdain for what trainers or trying to accomplish, or a lack of awareness of what they're actually teaching. What's awkward?

 

[油井緋色]

This is the type of statement that demonstrates either a disdain for what trainers or trying to accomplish, or a lack of awareness of what they're actually teaching. What's awkward?

Speed limits lol

Everything else makes perfect sense! (Not joking)

 

[ZX600]

This is the type of statement that demonstrates either a disdain for what trainers or trying to accomplish, or a lack of awareness of what they're actually teaching. What's awkward?

man, you need to take a chill pill - At which point did I say or do any of that?

As a matter of fact, I have many friends that are instructors and inspectors, I do have respect for what they do. To me checking my blind spot every 5 seconds with an exagerated head gesture so the inspector can see my head moving is what I refer to as awkward, I have said it before, If I rode on a daily bases the same way I had to ride in order to pass the exam I would be road kill by now.

Here stay on and argue with yourself. Peace out

Edit: I understand that it is good for your business to get people to take the course, but easy on your posts, it is just your opinion, believe it or not, what you say and believe does not apply to everyone.

 

[Emefef]

Speed limits lol

Everything else makes perfect sense! (Not joking)

take a course. you'll find that examiners at the courses are likely more "understanding" of traffic speed.

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