I pay $73/month for my cbr 600 with SF so yes
2013 Honda CBR600RR
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I pay $73/month for my cbr 600 with SF so yes
That's really good. SF quoted me really high for all my vehicles and an SS would be even more on any other company. Surprised your rates aren't higher in Brampton (unless you're way older than me and married or something).
MarcosSantiago
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Well, 99% of riders can't ride that bike at 100%, so it is really back to "don't fix what aint broke" argument.
There's really no incentive for Honda to come up with a completely new engine, chasis, etc
Can the manufacturer keep everybody happy? Nope... so at the end, they have to try to hit a balance, and keep sales up
Product designers are probably driven more by sales numbers and market share than rider complaints. If Honda is selling just as many 600s without slipper clutches as Kawasaki is with slipper clutches, then what's the hurry?
Look at the recent small bike wars: Ninja 250--CBR 125--Revised Ninja 250--CBR 250--Ninja 300--CBR 500. Both companies see the market and battle over it. Globally, there's much more at stake. The supersport segment is small and probably stagnant in terms of sales numbers. They're halo bikes that advertise engineering prowess and reputation.
Look at the recent small bike wars: Ninja 250--CBR 125--Revised Ninja 250--CBR 250--Ninja 300--CBR 500. Both companies see the market and battle over it. Globally, there's much more at stake. The supersport segment is small and probably stagnant in terms of sales numbers. They're halo bikes that advertise engineering prowess and reputation.
That seems heavy for an SS to me. My 650R is 430 wet (20 lbs more) as far as I remember from the specs and one complaint is how heavy it is. Coworker that is more familiar with sportbikes was really surprised my bike wasn't lighter.
I presume every insurance company classes these bikes as an SS? I'm interested in more options with ABS and decent components without having to go to exotics. Although the new 650R has ABS but I'd like to try something different.
I'm surprised too. I'm 26 and single but have multiple cars and home with SF. I'm gonna call and complain that my rate is too low
My Cbr has a low centre of gravity (weight at the bottom) so it feels really light especially at corners. Can't speak on your bike but I bet it's top heavy
sid_for_speed
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anybody else think the headlights are straight out of mustang?
conundrum
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Out of interest, does anyone know (or can possibly confirm) the new models will be at either the Toronto show or the International Show (in Sauga)? I really want to see the new 600 before I pass judgement (given I am close to being in the market for a new 600), but I want to see the others as well.
Why Honda rocks, they sweat the details that gtam critics would never notice or appreciate.
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2...600rrs-aerodynamics-compare-to-a-motogp-bike/
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2...600rrs-aerodynamics-compare-to-a-motogp-bike/
Engineering for F1 for many years, building the sleek HondaJet airplane, and supercars like the past NSX and coming 2014-15 NSX, something tells me Honda engineers are a little more obsessed with aerodynamics than usual, even on motorbikes.
Some GTAM critics were knocking the headlights and styling. There is a reason for this.....
"The new CBR’s been fitted with a redesigned front fairing that drops drag by 6.5 percent. The new “line beam” headlights slope inwards towards the central air intake, directing high pressure air where it’s most beneficial."
Hows GM doing?
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M
Marinoni
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The honda brand has jumped the shark...their products are boring and un original....redesigned headlights are supposed to get us excited ?
Far cry from the 80s when they came up with ground breaking products like the nr750 and rc30....
Im very far removed from GM......but the last I heard was sales are good and they opened another tech center in China......how is Honda doing in China?
My past employers are Bombardier Aerospace and GE. CFD, FEA etc are the
Common tools.
CFD is nothing new, you obviously thought Honda was doing something special in this regard, sorry to burst your Honda bubble. All that F1 and no sports car for how many years?....seems like a waste.
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Smurf, incorrect assumption as usual.
Lets recap, shall we?
My link was showing how Honda sweated the details on the aero of the new 600. Something that the gtam posers didnt notice, nor care, because of the "ugly headlights, styling, etc." The CFD images just confirmed that they were trying to mimic their MotoGP racer as close as possible, and this involved reshaping the headlights.
Nowhere did I state nobody else does this or uses CFD.
I merely pointed out that Hondas attention to detail in this matter comes as no surprise since they have, past and present, spend signifcant amounts of R&D involving the aerodynamics engineering of F1 cars, airplanes, road cars and bikes.
P.S. Would you like me to post the numerous F1, CART, Indy and MOTO GP championships Honda has won over the years?
Yes lets recap. I had a simple question:
"You think CFD anslysis is something new, or that just Honda uses it?"
You seem to have got all defensive over a simple Question?
The fact is that customers are asking for a slipper clutch, the Honda engineers are giving them what they think they need.......sounds very similar to a couple other car companies no?
Other 600's now have TC, and other features......honda gives CFD images!
Do you honestly think another sportbike would look much different in those CFD pics, and you would be able to tell us which is better?
You Did state "why Honda rocks"......seems you Where specifying a particular company no?
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And in my simple response, I stated given that they are very active in other aerodynamic avenues, its no surprise they use CFD and have attention to detail.
No defense, just FACT.
Where did I say that nobody else uses this technology or that this is new tech?
Yup, and reasons were stated why. They sweat the details on the aero of the CBR600
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Then these buyers can shop elsewhere? Imagine that? Or maybe Honda feels the aftermarket can support those that need these features?
