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Jayell said:
Where'd you get that idea? The 865cc Bonnie is rated at 67bhp, the CB is rumoured to have "eighty something" horsepower. Hardly double.

The CB1100 looks good, though I think it would look better if the tank, fenders, and side covers were the same colour. By the way, here's a first ride impression: http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/2013-honda-cb1100-first-ride.
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Rated..pffft. Real Bonnies, stock, are making around 50 hp at the rear wheel.....and a little over 40 ft lbs of torque.
I expect the CB will make 70-80 ft lbs.....or at least I hope it will,LOL

That review you posted int he first one that said the new CB feels large and substantial.
All the rest said it feels quite small for a bike of that weight and power and engine size. In fact most said the bike was obviously suited to shorter riders, and anyone over 6' would have a tough time not feeling cramped on it, let alone riding with a passenger.
The small size of the bike is what appeals to me alot about it (aesthetics aside)
 
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omnivore said:
Rated..pffft. Real Bonnies, stock, are making around 50 hp at the rear wheel...
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This may be so, but be sure to compare apples to apples, and talk about the Honda's RWHP, as well.
 
Here's hoping they have them at the Dec bike show. I really wanna see and sit on one....maybe arrange a test ride once snow melts.
 
RetroGrouch said:
The Honda will smoke the Triumph, that's all that matters.
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No doubt, but this was never in dispute, and hardly a fair fight, in any case. The claim that the Honda will have twice the power of the trumpet, and the same price, however, is simply not true.
 
To argue about the power of the new CB1100 is to miss the point. Going by specs alone, the old CB1100F would beat it in a fight. It's not really a good value either, as the bike is hardly retro - save for the fuel injection and three pot brakes, you're not buying old-looking tech, it is all actually old tech! Solid rotors, twin shocks, upright forks (undoubtedly damper rod), five speed transmission, 18" wheels. List for a Bonneville starts at $8700.

I guess I'm not really feeling it myself. I like the idea of having a UJM, but I could just cruise Kijiji and buy a real one for what the tax would cost on this.
 
If it feels smaller than the 95 big one CB1000 them I'm sold.
 
TwistedKestrel said:
To argue about the power of the new CB1100 is to miss the point. Going by specs alone, the old CB1100F would beat it in a fight. It's not really a good value either, as the bike is hardly retro - save for the fuel injection and three pot brakes, you're not buying old-looking tech, it is all actually old tech! Solid rotors, twin shocks, upright forks (undoubtedly damper rod), five speed transmission, 18" wheels. List for a Bonneville starts at $8700.

I guess I'm not really feeling it myself. I like the idea of having a UJM, but I could just cruise Kijiji and buy a real one for what the tax would cost on this.
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If everyone was smart, we'd buy nothing but used vehicles, but they don't exist without people buying new first. An older UJM has around 30 years of corrosion, wear, questionable modifications and (depending) limited/no parts support. For some that's a plus--the notion of buying something old that can be restored.

For others, they want something new that embodies the spirit of the old bike. Fresh off the line with modern components, engineering, factory support and the bike's first rider is you. No dents or scratches, just clean paint and shiny chrome. That's the notion that sells new Bonnevilles, Sportsters, V7's, etcetera. The tech isn't cutting edge, but they're not cynical replicas either.

Just for the record, the CB1100's rotors aren't solid. If the engine and gearbox are properly matched, I don't see a problem with a 5-speed transmission. Cheap damper rod forks/rear shocks WOULD be annoying, but none of the reviewers seem to complain much about suspension.
 
Flywheel said:
If everyone was smart, we'd buy nothing but used vehicles, but they don't exist without people buying new first. An older UJM has around 30 years of corrosion, wear, questionable modifications and (depending) limited/no parts support. For some that's a plus--the notion of buying something old that can be restored.

For others, they want something new that embodies the spirit of the old bike. Fresh off the line with modern components, engineering, factory support and the bike's first rider is you. No dents or scratches, just clean paint and shiny chrome. That's the notion that sells new Bonnevilles, Sportsters, V7's, etcetera. The tech isn't cutting edge, but they're not cynical replicas either.

Just for the record, the CB1100's rotors aren't solid. If the engine and gearbox are properly matched, I don't see a problem with a 5-speed transmission. Cheap damper rod forks/rear shocks WOULD be annoying, but none of the reviewers seem to complain much about suspension.
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You might be right on the rotors ... I can't tell if those are just bolts or funny rotor buttons. I'm not even saying any of those things are bad, only that if the bike comes in at anywhere near $12K using all those older tech parts (which are cheaper to produce) than it's overpriced by a couple grand. Which admittedly, Honda seems to do consistently on any bike of theirs you could call interesting.
 
on the other hand, I think it's a question of supply and demand. I'm not sure the inferior parts are cheaper to produce when everybody is buying the newer tech.
 
I'm getting old, the VFR is just too sport in ergos, this Honda looks like just the ticket to take me into the twilight of my biking years
I had at one time a CB750 and loved that bike...to me this bike is just gorgeous.

The Canadian Honda site only shows the white version, hopefully we get the red one as well
 
rotors float on buttons with no carriers...same as the BMW S1000RR does.

does anyone have any firm info regarding the forks being damper rods instead of cartridges?

Also, I race with some guys on bikes with damper rod forks.....and these guys can hauls ome serious ***. At a street pace with stock height footpegs, I highly doubt that damper rod forks would be the weakest link in the handling of this bike anyways.
 
omnivore said:
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Also, I race with some guys on bikes with damper rod forks.....and these guys can hauls ome serious ***. At a street pace with stock height footpegs, I highly doubt that damper rod forks would be the weakest link in the handling of this bike anyways.
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I think that unless you are at the really high professional level the biggest factor is the rider.

..Tom
 
My old zx6e had damper rod forks with adjustable preload AND adjustable damping. Could have been a gimmick, but they worked well enough for street riding (nothing like the cheap-o junk on the Burgman/gs500).

No real specifics on the CB's forks though. 41 mm conventional Showa with adjustable preload keeps getting mentioned. For once, please let the suspension be perfect for ~200 lb riders! It seems to be the target market, after all (men over 40). I think the SV1000 had conventional cartridge forks and the CB is priced about the same.
 
Gentlemen, I'm not debating that people can be fast on damper rod forks. Cartridge forks still have a benefit on the street, especially for sporty bikes that have firmer suspension. Damper rod forks handle sharp bumps poorly, ever get that shattered pelvis feeling?

Even so, it's not the end of the world that it has them, I just think in light of that Honda is asking too much for the bike.
 
Hey look, Honda made an SRX6. with three more cylinders.

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Genuine Honda Accessories as listed by TMW:

Heated grips
Rear rack
Colour coded top box with back pad
Front fork adjuster bolt (gold or red)
Chrome Meter cover
Meter panel (gold or red)
Headlight case
A chrome shroud for the distinctive single headlight reflecting the quality and individuality of a classic style re-imagined.

There's already 2 into 2 old school pipes available too. I don't like the looks of the knee-bend angle on Cyle-Ergo though.
 
omnivore said:
Can anyone in the "know" about what may or may not be coming down the Honda pipeline, tell me whether or not this is going to be imported to Canada (with ABS hopefully).

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Wish granted
Acording to my new CW magazine the cb1100 is heading state side!

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