riding a 250cc (or less) bike on the 401 (or other major highways)

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thoughts? inputs? advice? sugestions? experience? etc about riding a 250cc (or less) bike (regardless of style) on the 401 (or other major highways).

scary. yes.
more risks. yes.
fun. yes/no
avoid rush hours. YES.


thanks.
 
For me, I try and avoid the 400 series on any bike.

The 500 series is a different story.

I tend to speed up to get it over with, which isn't a good thing.

Usually, a trip that takes 4 hours by car, takes 6+ much more fun hours by bike.
 
I'll preface this by saying I have a 500, but I do the DVP/404 on a regular basis, it can be fun. I usually have it in 5th gear at the cruising speed, so I still have another to go. I don't know if that means anything to you or not

I did the 400 once from Newmarket to the 401, for some reason it felt a lot faster than the 404. I had to really push the bike. Must've been a windy day or something... I have a naked bike, and I was cruising at a speed where I thought the wind was going to rip my head off. It was a weird experience
 
I rip it on a 250 on all highways all the time in all conditions. No BS, I wouldn't do it on anything less though. I have a GPS so I watch my speed according to that. In the mornings on 403-401-427 I'm usually passing all the cars at about 130-135 at about 9.5-10 rpms with still a little more juice to go. Fastest I got on GPS was 158 so far, now thats when you gotta sit there to build up more speed...
So to answer your questions yes its more than capable. This on a 09 Ninja 250r though, I heard CBR250r doesn't have as much top end. On a 125 it can be done but on the highway you're comparable to one of those little e-bikes you see going down the side of the road barely keeping up and getting passed by everything...unless you got a RS125
 
I rode my 125 on the highways with no problem. I even took it up to Wasaga. It definitely keeps up with the traffic to some degree. But when you want to pass, you might aswell forget it...I constantly find myself in the fast lane with a truck in the middle and someone pulling up behind me. I can't get infront of the truck so I know I.m pissing off the driver behind me just to slow down and get behind the truck so the driver can pass. A lil frustrating for me too...
You'll be just fine with the 250 =D
 
I rode my 125 on the highways with no problem. I even took it up to Wasaga. It definitely keeps up with the traffic to some degree. But when you want to pass, you might aswell forget it...I constantly find myself in the fast lane with a truck in the middle and someone pulling up behind me. I can't get infront of the truck so I know I.m pissing off the driver behind me just to slow down and get behind the truck so the driver can pass. A lil frustrating for me too...
You'll be just fine with the 250 =D

hahaha I can imagine that feeling...it must suck.
 
cant speak for any bike less than 250cc but i had a 250cc for about 3 years.

scary. NO
more risks. NO.
fun. YES!!
avoid rush hours. upto your comfort level. its all the same with any bike.
 
250 will zero issues on the 401 ..

However i have witnessed with my own eyes a guy on a 125 on the 401 in the "fast" lane ( yeah i said fast lane) tucked in doing about 95km/h.

The line of traffic behind him was huge, and i could see the frustration levels of the drivers increasing the longer he stayed there.
 
something i noticed, though this might just be me. that drivers on the 401 are much more aggressive. or it feels that way. even just with cars. as if once you enter 401 it's a completely different ball game hahah. anyone feel or think this too?

ride safe.
 
However i have witnessed with my own eyes a guy on a 125 on the 401 in the "fast" lane ( yeah i said fast lane) tucked in doing about 95km/h.

And that would be a sign of being in the wrong gear (6th). Or against a strong headwind.

Mine will do 110 - 130 depending on wind direction and that's with me on it. If there is a headwind you have to use 5th gear and wind it out. But the bike will do it.
 
I rode my 250 from Mississauga to Prince Edward county on the 401 once. Bang it off the limiter at 140 the whole way. The only scary bit is hoping the motor doesn't explode.

I preferred rush hour to be honest, slower speed, easier to get through traffic than in a car. Unless it was summer and your roasting in your gear.
 
scary? No, if you do the right things.
more risks? Maybe, if you leave yourself in vulnerable position.
fun? Not really, like on any other bike. In my opinion that is.
avoid rush hours? Yes, on any bike, anywhere..


You see how little your questions have to do with the a size of a bike? .....
 
On the 400/404 on the cbr125r here. Since I'm a bit north of toronto, there is a lot less traffic. I usually only take the highways north of rutherford/16th.
I usually avoid it when there are winds higher than 25km/h as it will greatly decrease my speed. I am able to hold a steady 120km/h on a flat road and 125km/h-130km/h while tucking on a flat road.

Scary? Only when theres a lot of traffic.
More risks? As long as you keep out of blind spots and stay in a defensive position, you should be fine.
Fun? Well its nice to get some speed once in a while on the 125 (yeah... I know right..?) It is mostly used to get back home if I'm in a hurry
Avoid rush hours? Of course.
 
250 will zero issues on the 401 ..

However i have witnessed with my own eyes a guy on a 125 on the 401 in the "fast" lane ( yeah i said fast lane) tucked in doing about 95km/h.

The line of traffic behind him was huge, and i could see the frustration levels of the drivers increasing the longer he stayed there.

I've been on the left most lane on my 125 before (usually on areas on the highway with 2 lanes) only to pass a couple cars going 90km/h or less. I am cautious of what is behind me as I actually do check my mirrors unlike some people and I get off that lane as soon as I pass the slow moving car on the right lane. Must've been a windy day to only be hitting 95km/h while tucked... Or maybe they had a 15T sprocket and wasn't able to pick up speed fast enough...?
 
If you're going on 400 series hwys as a regular means to commute, depending on the time of day, you don't need to worry about cruising speed. Even if traffic is moving at 120 km/h, you'll be find by staying to the right lane.

I'd rather be on a scooter than a larger or heavier bike in stop and go congestion.

Otherwise, no matter what size bike, I'm looking for alternative routes on my bike because I'm riding. If it's A to B, the cage is what I take.
 
I started my first season of riding on a 2010 Ninja 250R, and rode quite a bit on highways going to/from Port Hope, or other areas well outside Toronto. It's an excellent bike to learn on, I feel I probably am a better rider for having started on it. Had a lot of fun with that bike, despite since realizing it was physically pretty small for me. I realized after upgrading to a 650R and now my V-Strom, that I dwarved the 250R and it showed.

To answer some of the points, in my opinion:

I rarely found much about the bike to be scary, unless I was riding like an ******. (Had a few close calls, nearly got bucked off the bike taking a turn incorrectly.) The 250's very forgiving and generally will put up with either a relaxed or aggressive riding style. I would say to an *extent* there are some risks riding a 250cc-or-lower bike, as you don't have the acceleration power the larger displacement bikes have if you ever need to get out of a bad situation. (i.e. I had a truck veering toward me on a wet highway, and the 250R had a hard time getting up to speed to pass it, that was a bit scary. But as Brian P & others have said, drop down to 5th gear and you'll get the power needed -- I just didn't know that at the time.)

Can't speak for 125cc's, other than from knowing a few fellow riders who had them. But if there's one thing I'd mention about 125/250cc bikes, it's that IF you choose to ride with groups of larger bikes, you may struggle to keep up if they don't consider waiting for you.
 
I have a 250r and I commute to work / school on it using the 401 almost everyday (weather permitting). It's fine on the highway, I've hit 160 on it and it still had a bit to go
 
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