silverbullet132
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Its generally not a good idea to mount and ride on tires over 5 years old.
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Toronto Harley/Ducatti dealer closed?
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Its generally not a good idea to mount and ride on tires over 5 years old.
toshison
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A lot of the dealership owners (cars and bikes) want to be the biggest and baddest so they make these huge elaborate storefronts with lots of staff that are use to just standing around doing nothing and that ends up biting them in the rear.
Anytime I walk into a dealership like that, I wonder if they sell enough volume to account for the huge space or whether they are just going to try and rip off every customer that walks through the door.
The owner has been losing a bundle everty month and the last time I looked in they had very few bikes in stock. (used bikes only) He does not have a good reputation with any of the brands so I doubt that it will be a multi-brand dealership. I think the building will be put up for sale. However, Honda still does not have a dealership in Toronto so maybe that could be an opportunity with a better operator.
I went there today at lunch, pretty much cleaned out.. lots of harley parts, old tires, womens clothes and a ton of kids clothes. Not much mens clothing unless your a slim fit, or like womens clothes 
I bought a pair of rain pants for $20, then a bunch of stuff for the kids
I bought a pair of rain pants for $20, then a bunch of stuff for the kids
Parkway Honda is just down the street. I highly doubt they want to get back into the motorcycle business after the Parkway Powerhouse debacle.
The Road Warrior
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So many big bike dealerships went under over the last 10 -15 years. Places such as McBrides, Cycle World (Etobicoke), Envy Rides, now this place etc etc. I wonder what went wrong, greedy and unrealistic owners probably.
OpenGambit
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Can't imagine that sales of luxury items didn't go down in the past 4 years.
The Road Warrior
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Yes but places such as McBrides and Cycle World went out of business way before the economy went to ****.
OpenGambit
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Not doubting you that its another reason re: older closures.
Those shops didn't really go out of business. The owners chose to close down their shops. Toronto H-D wasn't even finished when the economy crapped out in the fall of 2008. They were doomed before they sold a single bike.
You think the owner of Cycle World just got up one morning and decided to close a profitable business?
The stores went kaput because they had to. Sales were sinking, and in CW's case Honda chose to start selling motorcycles exclusively out of their own dealerships. Cycle World was losing money when they closed. McBride went bankrupt about 2 years after John left to open Riders Choice.
The Road Warrior
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Yeah it really blows that certain manufacturers only allow their bikes to be sold at their own dealerships, such as Honda. These days if you want to go see bikes, you have to go to multiple dealerships just to sit on different models/manufacturers. I remember the good old days going to McBrides or CycleWorld Etobicoke where you had all the bikes under one roof, so you could actually compare em side by side.
That shop rose from the former Rev Cycle down on Bathurst.It and the HD dealer beside it moved up to the new location.it was all managed by an eastern family with money sent into the country from the father.Over the years it ran out of money many times.The Lambo dealer (Part of Rev) suffered from this not so steady influx of cash.It was all just a cool place full of toys for the filthy rich.
Let's be clear on something first, bike dealerships don't survive on new bike sales.
They make the money on service, merchandise and parts, that's why they do such a crappy job working on them, to make sure you come back soon. :lmao:
They seemed to think business would improve going uptown, but that doesn't matter at all, a rider will go wherever he has to, to find a shop. Especially HD, what was missing was customer service and common sense.
I've had problems with every dept in that place, they don't give a crap, and word spreads fast when you screw over everyone Toronto style, eventually your reputation catches up to you.
I have a message for them, good riddance!
Kiss my arse :bootyshake: and F-You :thebirdman:
They make the money on service, merchandise and parts, that's why they do such a crappy job working on them, to make sure you come back soon. :lmao:
They seemed to think business would improve going uptown, but that doesn't matter at all, a rider will go wherever he has to, to find a shop. Especially HD, what was missing was customer service and common sense.
I've had problems with every dept in that place, they don't give a crap, and word spreads fast when you screw over everyone Toronto style, eventually your reputation catches up to you.
I have a message for them, good riddance!
Kiss my arse :bootyshake: and F-You :thebirdman:
Scob
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I got there Tuesday afternoon just as someone was closing the deal on the last bike they had - a XR1200 X Sportster. Retails for around $13k. He told me he got it for $8,000 out the door. He had bought a big tourer over the winter and he came in to check on it once he learned they were closing down as they were storing it for them. All the bikes had been sold by mid-day Monday, but they "found" the Sporty in the back in a crate that afternoon and he bought it on the spot.
If that is how they managed their inventory, that might partly explain why they are going out of business.
A member of another forum I'm on claimed he picked up a 2011 Street Glide (about $22k retail) for $12k.
I too can't understand why they would sell these bikes for half of retail - is the markup that high on new models? Even for 2011 models, you would think they would have had no problem selling for, say $5 or $7 grand off the list price.
I did pick up a jacket and some other clothing items for half the list - on some things, the price had already been reduced and I got the 50% discount on the reduced price.
No new bike at a once-in-a-lifetime price, though!
Bang on, they managed to piss off every regular client they had. it was the service that killed them.
look at GP bikes they managed to pull through the economic recession .
REV/Iconic drowned due to mis management and horrible service
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sleezyray
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Is it any surprise they going bankrupt? i have no business background but it doesn't take a master's degree to realize what that store's future was. First time i walked in there, they had about 15 HD'S along with old buells. Aside from beign impressed with the aestetics of the building, i left that place wondering how the hell they make a profit to begin with. If you observe GP bikes business model, they keep cost down by putting alot of bikes and mechandise inside a really tiny store. If i run that HD store, it will be exclusively used bikes that are 1 year old and from every manufacturer. Guranteed to put gp out of business. And yes, tires have expiration date. Not a date per say. Common sense tells me so.
Since when do tires have expiration dates? Do they taste sour afterwards? Tires have manufacturing date codes. Rubber does deteriorate over time but how quickly depends on how it's stored.
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sleezyray
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How are you surpose to know how well a tire is been stored? You are right in the sense that tires do not have have an expiration date, but that does not qualify a 5,7 or ten year old tire to be sold. Why take such risk? Tires get stiff with time. Stiffer tires have less traction and old tires in general are suceptible to blowouts. Maybe some of you are cool with it but I sure won't buy a 5 year old tire. Why take on the added risk?
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