vdk
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The five-ohs will have your bike impounded if they catch you at the end of 2nd gear.
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Sport bikes are not beginner bikes BUT...
- Thread starter sundancekid
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fyi, i think he did buy a 500, so he 'anticipated' your advice and took it to heart!
Golluk
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I kinda have to wonder about these people getting bored with 250-500 bikes. About the only difference I see is how quickly and badly you get into 172 territory between corners. Have these people who are bored of 250's already removed their chicken strips? Almost dragging knees in corners? Otherwise they might be best served with a track liter bike and do runs at the drag strip. What I get out of riding is cruising around listening to music, sharp turns you can lean right over in while under <70 km/h, and touring the country side.
That said I'm thinking of moving up to a 650, maybe a 600 if insurance isn't much more, after 28k km's on a gs500f. My own reasons would be for better suspension, more power for cruising in no mans land with full luggage, and keeping up if I care to between corners with the 750+ bikes.
That said I'm thinking of moving up to a 650, maybe a 600 if insurance isn't much more, after 28k km's on a gs500f. My own reasons would be for better suspension, more power for cruising in no mans land with full luggage, and keeping up if I care to between corners with the 750+ bikes.
Magoo
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Go troll in Northern GTA thread lol
vic_himself
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Meh just take a motorcycle course, I have a 250ninja and a 600 cbr. I wish I would have never wasted my money on the 250. Personally I think people who say you need to learn on a bike under 600 are just soft and they had trouble. 600 sportbike is fine just take your time and be gentle, besides sometimes you need a bit of power to escape certain situations especially at high speeds. When your bike struggles to go 100 
is all I have to coment on that, and trust me I know from experience. Sometimes you just have to go big or go home unless you are not very confident in yourself then yea 125 will do.
is all I have to coment on that, and trust me I know from experience. Sometimes you just have to go big or go home unless you are not very confident in yourself then yea 125 will do.
vdk
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Meh just take a motorcycle course, I have a 250ninja and a 600 cbr. I wish I would have never wasted my money on the 250. Personally I think people who say you need to learn on a bike under 600 are just soft and they had trouble. 600 sportbike is fine just take your time and be gentle, besides sometimes you need a bit of power to escape certain situations especially at high speeds. When your bike struggles to go 100
LOL okay there bud...
Phillymon
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Meh just take a motorcycle course, I have a 250ninja and a 600 cbr. I wish I would have never wasted my money on the 250. Personally I think people who say you need to learn on a bike under 600 are just soft and they had trouble. 600 sportbike is fine just take your time and be gentle, besides sometimes you need a bit of power to escape certain situations especially at high speeds. When your bike struggles to go 100
You know from what? straight line experience, yes we know you can twist the throttle.
stormcat
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I guess I should have read everything in this thread, eh?
Good, I'm glad he picked up a 500.
Marbleboy
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Meh just take a motorcycle course, I have a 250ninja and a 600 cbr. I wish I would have never wasted my money on the 250. Personally I think people who say you need to learn on a bike under 600 are just soft and they had trouble. 600 sportbike is fine just take your time and be gentle, besides sometimes you need a bit of power to escape certain situations especially at high speeds. When your bike struggles to go 100
Ppl who suggested he needs to learn on a bike that is not supersport are the ppl who are still healthy and enjoy riding today, and be responsible and cautious about riding when you also have to deal with heavy traffic, crazy cagers, etc. Everyone can ride on a straight away with no cagers, or non-traffic hours, but what happened when you have a stop-and-go traffic with a supersport? it's do-able but for newbies?
If you actually wasted money on 250, you are doing something wrong... many ppl bought a 250, and sold it back out about the same price after a year or 2.
It's not go big or go home... it's actually be cautious or be dead.
Meh just take a motorcycle course, I have a 250ninja and a 600 cbr. I wish I would have never wasted my money on the 250. Personally I think people who say you need to learn on a bike under 600 are just soft and they had trouble. 600 sportbike is fine just take your time and be gentle, besides sometimes you need a bit of power to escape certain situations especially at high speeds. When your bike struggles to go 100
I question your riding skills if you have trouble getting a 250R to 100kmh. If you were talking a 250cc cruiser, I'd understand the comment.
I know this will probably stir up a hornets nest but come on guys a rider is going to grow out of a 125 in about 1 week, not to mention he/she would not even be able to go on the hwy. My wife even grew out of the 250 Ninja in 2 months. To each is own but just remember its not the arrow its the Indian.
I agree 100%, a 600cc bike is perfectly fine.Meh just take a motorcycle course, I have a 250ninja and a 600 cbr. I wish I would have never wasted my money on the 250. Personally I think people who say you need to learn on a bike under 600 are just soft and they had trouble. 600 sportbike is fine just take your time and be gentle, besides sometimes you need a bit of power to escape certain situations especially at high speeds. When your bike struggles to go 100
Phillymon
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Growing out has multiple meanings. Everyone will grow out of a 125 or 250r straight line wise, because everyone in the end wants speed. Twisting the throttle is easy.
When people jump onto 600r or quickly abandons their 125/250 for one, you'll likely find 2 inch wide chicken strips with squared tires, or when you watch them ride and take corners it makes you nervous. Of course there are those rossi types that just get it.
Then again thats fine cause there are those that purchase bikes to pose, look good and go straight , and then there are those that ride for the twisties. As you said to each his own.
If you enjoy leaning that bike and learning the skills to keep you alive 250r is a good start, flicking that bike in turns is phenomenal, if you don't care and just want to look good and go straight get a 600.
Just understand that IMHO starting on a bigger bike just stunts your growth as a rider, you'll be a better rider by learning the skills on a 125/250 then transferring them over to a 600r or then a litre. Unless of course you are just talented.
2cents
I had a friend get my '82 250cc cruiser to 100 kmh. I couldn't, but he had about 20 more years experience than I did.
Most problems can be solved by putting a better rider on the bike rather than the reverse.
Oh don't get me wrong, I took my GZ250 on the highway all the time. But it certainly took some effort. Now, if that's possible, then no one should be having ANY problems on their Ninja 250.
vdk
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How much do you guys weigh? I'm 180 pounds and I took the 250 to 180km/h on a closed course. It didn't complain much at all. Fun bike that one, perfect learning bike I would say. SS bikes are twitchy, and will hinder a new rider's development. It's easy to get speed on 6s and find yourself in deep **** when the turn comes if you're new. The 250 being slower gives you more time to react.
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