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People mow their lawns at 7am, 8am, whatever. And they do it for 30mins, an hour, two hours, whatever. Someone riding by on a bike might affect you for 30 seconds. I get that straight piped bikes are really loud and really annoying, and I'm all for noise restrictions to some degree but the legislation cannot clearly target a single vehicle and enforcement blitzes shouldn't target a single vehicle type either.
Apparently in Quebec you're not allowed to ride motorcycles in some areas of the city. You want to start seeing that be more widespread? Where your road legal vehicle isn't allowed to pass through sleepy-town XYZ?
For noise readings, you have to know at what distance from the bike, at what angle, and height. And Decibel scale is not a linear scale (but we still use it for some reason).
want to start seeing that be more widespread? Where your road legal vehicle isn't allowed to pass through sleepy-town XYZ?
Unfortunately, everybody else has to live with your decision too.I am also fully aware that if I'm revving my bike like a dumb *** through town, I'm liable to be pulled over, I can live with that.
Some noise is inevitable in populated areas and most people put up with it in exchange for the fact that said noise serves a greater purpose, e.g., the houses we live in were all built noisily, the trains bring people and goods the city needs, etc. Loud pipes on public roads exist solely to stoke the ego of the rider.But if you're going to measure the decibel level of my bike, please also do something about the GO trains and the freight trains that run constantly throughout the GTHA. And worst yet do something about the ****ing construction sites that insist on starting work at 7am six days a week!
Because the human ear registers sound logarithmically, not linearly.
Who's to judge what is a greater purpose, I ride my bike to work virtually every day. My going to work supports the economy and I manage a large group of people who supply the needs of many cities. So does that not allow me the same rights as a train or a construction site?Unfortunately, everybody else has to live with your decision too.
Point is I don't rev my bike like a dumb *** from light to light
Some noise is inevitable in populated areas and most people put up with it in exchange for the fact that said noise serves a greater purpose, e.g., the houses we live in were all built noisily, the trains bring people and goods the city needs, etc. Loud pipes on public roads exist solely to stoke the ego of the rider.
As long as these laws are written in a way that they end up being enforced in a consistent fashion (and not with a cop sticking a decibel meter up someone's tailpipe), don't really have a problem with this.
A national standard would be best. Hell, we could adapt the EC approval system wholesale (while grandfathering in older bikes that have never had such exhausts available and never will).
While we're at it, maybe somebody can notice that the motorcycle industry is still self-regulating when it comes to emissions, and they're not doing a great job?
油井緋色;2205856 said:If they really care about emissions, make a new engine type!
Society as whole judges, that's why we have laws, social norms, and mores. And while your contribution is laudable, it does not in itself generate undue noise. If you can figure out a way to hammer a nail or drive a train without making noise, great. In the meantime, those activities have no choice, but are still subject to restrictions so as to disturb as few people as possible.Who's to judge what is a greater purpose, I ride my bike to work virtually every day. My going to work supports the economy and I manage a large group of people who supply the needs of many cities. So does that not allow me the same rights as a train or a construction site?
You mean like Mission RS, Brammo Empluse, Zero S, Energetica, Mugen, Harley LiveWire, Yamaha PES?
[video=youtube;B63LdK6RUuk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B63LdK6RUuk[/video]
油井緋色;2205860 said:Yup. I hope they get popular enough to reduce the "electric business margin" attached to all of them -_-
....or the government is going continue sleeping with the oil companies and slap regulations on the electric motors (again).
The goofy thing to me is how fast many sport bikers adopted the Harley "style",
where I would've expected them to eschew it.
I take it that I'm safe with any stock pipes, same as I am with the stock tail?
Until the battery tech starts to catch up they wont catch on. But i honestly think its a matter of time.
油井緋色;2205871 said:After commuting everyday in a cage, I question if loud pipes DON'T save lives. While I'm constantly looking for motorcycles during lane changes (because we all know how fast SS bikes can accelerate), there have been times where I can hear a bike 100 meters (at least) behind me coming.
I understand that the sound is shooting the wrong way (behind) but you can hear them before you see 'em. I haven't had anyone pull a 13k rpm pass on me yet though...I'm curious to be on the receiving end of that one lol
油井緋色;2205860 said:Yup. I hope they get popular enough to reduce the "electric business margin" attached to all of them -_-
....or the government is going continue sleeping with the oil companies and slap regulations on the electric motors (again).