vibration

el_felo

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Hello,

So after a long weekend of long riding 8hours each day. I started feeling a bit more vibration than normal the last few days of riding on my hands and pegs, so I've been keeping it from home to work only for this week mostly :(

I do notice my hands are a bit tingly even when Im not riding, so I think my nervous system is just a bit in shock from the 2 days of long riding. A side from that is there anything I should check on the bike to make sure is not just me? please note I am not over gripping the handle bars.

What are some of the things that could cause this vibration on the bike?
Tire pressure? engine bolts ?

Its a ninja 250 just in case.

Thanks
 
That tingling is a nerve issue from the vibrations. Construction workers that use pneumatic drills for long periods also get it. You can do a few things to try to alleviate the problem. If you have hollow bars then you can fill the bars with vibration damping devices. There are some products for this (barsnake I think one is called) other people use buckshot and a sprayfoam filler to stop it moving. The easiest thing to try first are extra heavy bar end weights.

You should also check all nuts and bolts to make sure they are torqued properly.

Your bike also is a bit more vibration prone than others so you may have to live with it for a bit too. The things I listed above can reduce the vibrations a bit though.
 
I thought my Rebel 250 was bad, but then again I never went for a full 2 days 8 hour rides with it. I am thinking it may be a nut or bolt but have looked at filling the bars and changing the grips too. Again, it just started this week :(
 
This could be the beginning of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome which is frequently caused by prolonged vibration. The thumb and the first two fingers are what tingles if it is CTS. Rest will sometimes help but if it persists see a doctor.
 
The first thing I would do is check all fasteners for correct torque, paying special attention to engine and frame mounting bolts.

Bar end weights are sized by the manufacturer to reduce vibes in the rev range they expect most users of that bike will ride in. Using bigger weights will not necessarily reduce vibes in the range you normally ride at. They might make it better, or worse, or just move the smooth spot (Ninja 250's have more than one) around a little in the rpm range. The 250's are a lot smoother than most parellel twins. The 500 and 650's are way worse..the 500 not nearly as raspy as the 06, 07, 08 and maybe 09 650's. At one point, the 650's had some additional vibration reduction efforts..I think Kawi rubber mounted one end of the engine and that can help a lot. BMW parellel twins have a lot of unpleasant vibes also.

One thing I would suggest is if you try cruising at different revs and finding that smoother rpm. Then either shift up or down a gear to try to compensate. Naturally if you are doing faster highway speeds and find that if you shift down into 5th, then revs are going to scream up depending on how fast you are going, so not always an option. My point though is to experiment a little. If you find a sweet spot rev, then try swapping bar weights (both bigger and smaller...borrow from friends?) until you find a weight that inhances that sweet spot. It is easier typed than done though, as removing bar end weights can be a real pain as they usually are factory lock-tighten with red or blue (requiring hear to remove) and is hard to get to. I would try it on a hot day and place a black leather jacket or even a black pail over the bar end fort awhile so the sun can really warm it up. Then when you try to remove, keep a firm but slow pressure on the socket. This allows the loc-tite to break its bond slowly, and helps avoid bolts twisting off. You really don't wanna do that.

IMO, not enough emphasis is put on reducing vibes (that hurt) on bikes. People would not buy cars whose steering wheel put their hands to sleep, so why do we tolerate it on bikes? It is why riders will often choose a V4, or flat 4 or flat 6 or some other configuration with the engine rubber mounted. But rubber mounbing an engine is not easy to do and retain chassis ridgidity as they are used as a stressed member in the frame. It can be done in bikes, but cost is always a factor and mfrs opt for easy outs that are often not very effective, like bar-end weights and internal counter-balancing. They help, but night and day differences are rare. One tho comes to mind where that isn't the case..Kawi's ZX14. Smoothest large inline 4 I've felt.

Also try some aftermkt grips...ones designed, or have a reputation for addressing vibes. Also get some gloves that have gel in the palms. Grips and the gel gloves help quite a lot. First I would do though is confirm every bolt is torqued right, and some are hard to see without removing plastic, so the one you ignore could be the culprit. Good luck.
 
To stop your hands and wrists from tingling these really help a LOT! http://www.hvmp.com

Put them on my old R6, rode for 11 hours one day, shoulders, wrists, hands, felt as if I didn't ride at all!

-Jamie M.
 
I agree with adding heavier weights.

I never had a 'problem' with vibrations on my zx6

But I recently added throttle meister bar ends which are much heavier, and have noticed a big difference in the amount of vibrations felt.

Being able to take your right hand off the bars at speed to stretch is sooo nice.
 
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