Total Control, Racer5 or FAST?

油井緋色;2010991 said:
Were any supersports there? Or specifically, bikes with sport position? I've noticed most gymkhana videos they use supersports with modded straight bars, does it make it that much easier? =/

Yes there were all kinds of bikes. I went with my 636.
The modded bars does make it much easier for gymkhana
 
This is me in level one.
The girls improved better than the boys, but I found that with a lot of motorsports training. I think guys have a tougher time unlearning doing it wrong. I definitely had a tough time reverting back to habits I'm used to after many years of riding.

Did anybody get their knee down at the Total Control course?
Yes, they had special pucks you could strap to your knee. Many of the bikes were clearance limited so you couldn't if you wanted.

I found out my aftermarket exhaust is poorly routed and scrapes before my pegs do.
 
I wanna take TC but it's 2 hours each way for me... would make a really long day, don't wanna be fatigued on the way back.

Any suggestions?

It's usually from 8am - 6pm. A good portion of that is classroom time. You will have lots of "rest" time as you are not on the bike riding the entire 8-9 hours. There are a lot of cheap hotels/motels in the area also.
 
Do you need seat time BEFORE you take TC??? I just got a bike and have put on may be 200 kms....Do I need to Hold my horses and come back next season?

You need 5K of riding experience on your own bike. That means if you've been riding for a while and racked up that kind of mileage, then you just went out and bought the new bike, you qualify.

The reason for the need for 5K on your own bike is to deter those that have just passed their M2 from showing up. They need to get comfortable and familiar with the bike and riding before we push them to the next level.
 
It's usually from 8am - 6pm. A good portion of that is classroom time. You will have lots of "rest" time as you are not on the bike riding the entire 8-9 hours. There are a lot of cheap hotels/motels in the area also.

Thanks for the info, sounds like an overnight stay would make it pretty easy. Maybe I can do it later this summer.
 
You need 5K of riding experience on your own bike. That means if you've been riding for a while and racked up that kind of mileage, then you just went out and bought the new bike, you qualify.

The reason for the need for 5K on your own bike is to deter those that have just passed their M2 from showing up. They need to get comfortable and familiar with the bike and riding before we push them to the next level.

3K*
 
I wanna take TC but it's 2 hours each way for me... would make a really long day, don't wanna be fatigued on the way back.

Any suggestions?
I ride over 4 hours each way for every class, usually leave home at 2:30 a.m. and head for class.
 
I did TC level 1 on the weekend and it was a fantastic course! I learned so much about body control (and how much more I need to practice and learn) that I've gained a new awareness and control over cornering. Many other important things were learned, but the body control and positioning was the biggest lesson for me.

I took Fast level 1 a couple of years ago and learned a lot there as well. But, what I think would've worked best for my rider development would have been to take TC first and then a track school. What you learn at TC is very applicable to the street and is still really valuable for the track and, I'd imagine, racing. Track school (like Fast or Racer 5) will teach you skills that are useful for the street, but not to the same degree as TC. So, I think that learning from different riding schools is the best plan, as they all will teach you valuable skills, and I would recommend completing Total Control first.
 
No such thing. just have to work harder, increase lean angle and go faster!

Dave, have you ever compared the technique that you use for tight turns to what the moto ghymkana guys do?
 
No such thing. just have to work harder, increase lean angle and go faster!

Clearance limited means you can't increase lean angle so I'm not certain what you mean. As awesome as you are on the vmax really stretching for it, I'm not certain what you would look like stretching to get a knee down on the goldwing. Though if it can be done I'm sure you can do it.
 
After seeing Lee Parks dragging knee when on a VRod this past Saturday, I'm certain the TC instructors can do that on any bike!
 
Dave, have you ever compared the technique that you use for tight turns to what the moto ghymkana guys do?

we also teach Low Speed tight turns and counterbalance. What the Ghymkana guys do is "different" in that ground clearance is not the issue and in most cases lateral forces are also not at issue. They are trying to make very fast direction changes so when not required to counter balance (Again we do teach this as well) they are staying upright on the bike and pushing the bike under them in order to make quick changes more like the technique used in swerving
 
Clearance limited means you can't increase lean angle so I'm not certain what you mean. As awesome as you are on the vmax really stretching for it, I'm not certain what you would look like stretching to get a knee down on the goldwing. Though if it can be done I'm sure you can do it.

gold wings are easy and handle very well! Most like sport bikes. You can rail those things. we have an instructor who takes his to the race track.
 
I'll definitely be down to sign up once I recover the funds from my pine cone crash lol

Hopefully there are still spots in 3 weeks for any of the sessions left this year =/
 
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