Total Control, Racer5 or FAST?

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I understand the intention behind the three courses, which is their main difference, but which one is more valuable for everyday riding and the occasional track day? Currently, I am uncomfortable elephant hunting (which I obviously want to). Which course would teach me how to elephant hunt most efficiently? =P

Differences I already understand:

  • Total Control is one day, street focused, and low speeds
  • Racer5 is couple days to get a license, starts on a CBR125, and focuses on racing rules??? (not sure on this)
  • FAST is either rent a 600 or bring your own, focuses on racing, 3 days for the package?

Thank you for the info ahead of time!
 
For street riders? Total Control is the most street-oriented choice. The other two are both track oriented, but bike control is bike control.

At this point in the season, your choice will likely be dictated by which one is not sold out, and you had better jump on the case quick.
 
Brian P said:
For street riders? Total Control is the most street-oriented choice. The other two are both track oriented, but bike control is bike control.

At this point in the season, your choice will likely be dictated by which one is not sold out, and you had better jump on the case quick.
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Total Control seems to still have a lot of spots left. I haven't checked the other two.
 
Where can I sign up/get info for Total Control course?
 
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I was about to start a topic with the same question. My head is saying it would be better to develop my technique on the 125's at Racer5, but I would love to take a 600 out on the track.

Anyone else have any input?
 
Not to sound like a jackass, but it seems like you should have stayed on the 250 for a little longer...
 
Total control, take both levels. Don't take both in one weekend - allow yourself 1 month or so between them.
 
Mina said:
Not to sound like a jackass, but it seems like you should have stayed on the 250 for a little longer...
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How does this comment not sound jackassy? =P

Books can only do so much, I want directions now.

And not everyone starts on a 250 <_<
 
油井緋色;2008851 said:
I understand the intention behind the three courses, which is their main difference, but which one is more valuable for everyday riding and the occasional track day? Currently, I am uncomfortable elephant hunting (which I obviously want to). Which course would teach me how to elephant hunt most efficiently? =P

Differences I already understand:

  • Total Control is one day, street focused, and low speeds
  • Racer5 is couple days to get a license, starts on a CBR125, and focuses on racing rules??? (not sure on this)
  • FAST is either rent a 600 or bring your own, focuses on racing, 3 days for the package?

Thank you for the info ahead of time!
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lol
 
油井緋色;2008910 said:
How does this comment not sound jackassy? =P

Books can only do so much, I want directions now.

And not everyone starts on a 250 <_<
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My apologies if that came across the wrong way, that was not my intention.
Good luck.

carboncat said:
lol
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I only lol'ed at the elephant hunting part. lol
 
油井緋色;2008910 said:
And not everyone starts on a 250 <_<
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Maybe they should. ;)
 
FAST has 250s, SVs, 650Rs and 600s. Can't speak for the others, but FAST definitely improved my street skills, and was a major help doing track days at Shanny and faster tracks, like Mosport.
 
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I've taken Racer5 (4 days) and Total Control (both levels) and I took them in the wrong order. Absolutely, take the Total Control school first. Total Control is much more oriented to daily driving, obstacle and emergency situation avoidance, but most importantly they are meticulous in showing you the proper body positioning and form for going into turns, transitioning, hard breaking... When I say meticulous, I mean that a lot of the day will be working on it, doing parked bike dry runs, and they take pictures to show you while you are doing the practice runs. Racer5 does this only in the most basic way. Taking Total Control first will give you a huge advantage when doing any track course, because you can then worry about all the other stuff that's specific to track riding.

mongol777 said:
Total control, take both levels. Don't take both in one weekend - allow yourself 1 month or so between them.
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I've taken both and I'm on the edge about recommending the second day. It was useful, but I don't think I got enough out of it to justify the expense.
 
I'm gonna be taking both. Total Control on June 2 and Racer 5 June 29 and 30....will report back if you can wait that long
 
I dont know if they are around anymore, but I did Turn2 (I think similar to FAST) and I've done Total Control.

Total control teaches you a lot of technical slow speed stuff. Supposedly can apply some principles to track as well.
When I did Turn2, loved it way more. I would say its more worth your money to take the track course as you can practice slow stuff on your own in any parking lot for free. Obviously you don't get any instruction with just going to the parking lot yourself, but you can read up on slow riding principles first before heading out.
 
Total Control 1st, then track day. I did them in that order and it was the best money ever spent. It was my first sport bike, first trip to the track and I was on the smallest bike at the track and still with the total control class was passing everyone and having a great time being able to focus on the braking points, line etc. I did not have to worry about all the stuff I learned at the Total Control class.
 
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