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Been trying to improve our muscle mass and this article came up. Sent along to partner. I don't do any training but partner does Pilate and is at risk for osteoporisis ( actually has it )

I don't exercise so don't bother but interested in supplements people find useful.
I used to find B vitamins gave me a boost but have not taken in years.
Also liked ginseng pick me up but again nothing just now ...just three needed meds and pseudoephrine plus lots of panadol daily ( within safe dose ).
 
Not an expert on anything food related but lately I've been seeing younger/middle aged men state the benefits of things like TRT, peptides etc. Starting to wonder if I need to prepare for the same once I hit my 40s...
 
Anyone with experience using BPC-157?
Fixed my janky shoulder in weeks. YMMV. Some people don't respond to it well, I apparently responded to it with a vengeance.
 
Been trying to improve our muscle mass and this article came up. Sent along to partner. I don't do any training but partner does Pilate and is at risk for osteoporisis ( actually has it )
Creatine is the most studied and proven to be most beneficial of the dietary supplements. It's definitely not a drug, it isn't toxic and side effects are very slight. If you take creatine, you need to drink more water, and that's because it helps your cells recharge their energy and store water. Typically after a few weeks, I'm 5-8 pounds heavier from water saturation, after taking 5g or so a day from time off. Cycling off creatine is not needed, but I don't supplement with it when I'm not working out for a time.

There is only two side effects that are rare. One is that it helps your overall health enough that you might create more testosterone along with a workout routine, and that means that if you are prone to losing hair, Creatine might - and I mean might - speed male pattern balding very slightly. The other is that some people feel "overly full" and some slightly nauseous, which usually eases as they get over a cell-loading period.

The benefits for workouts and recovery are good, not steroid-like since it is not a drug or hormone, but definitely worth the time. You will gain some strength and stamina along with a higher water weight and somewhat larger muscles due to the cells storing more water (which also lets muscle cells push against each other more efficiently, improving strength some amount). There is recent strong evidence that higher dosages (10g or so per day) improve cognitive function and since you can't overdose on it, if your body can't use all of the creatine, it will just show up in urine.

You can get creatine in red meats and some in white meats, but if you're like me and eat a lot of chicken, shrimp, salmon etc. then creatine has even more powerful effects since I don't get a lot in my diet.

I listen to my doctor.( Not Dr Google)
Be careful with that. I have first-hand experience with doctors that have archaic knowledge and archaic methods of doing things. I have to take TRT because I had more than one fair concussion racing (bikes + motorcycles) which changed my body chemistry. A lot of boxers and football players have similar issues. Well, he would have me injecting 1.1ml of cypionate every week 1.5" deep into my thigh using a 21 gauge needle, which has two problems: a huge testosterone peak which tends to over-stimulate red blood cell production, and a deep testosterone trench which tends to cause acne but also mental issues in men. Switching to enthenate, I can inject .25ml twice a week into my shoulders with a 32 gauge needle and avoid both the trench and the red blood cell increase. I give blood every six months just to be sure.

The same is true of the peptides. They really know very little about them. GLP1 being the one they know the most about (Ozempic for example). They are unaware of powerful peptides like BPC-157 with TB4, Retatrutide (GLP3), CJC-1295 combined with Ipamorelin, Tirzepatide (GLP2), ATR-258, Epitalon, etc. etc. There is a whole new world of medicine coming that the big pharma companies are trying to stay away from because they are actual cures and won't see people using them for years like so many other solutions - and peptides are really hard to monopolize since we make them in our bodies already in smaller amounts. Quite literally, the fountain of youth and health is closer than it's ever been.
 
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You can’t do much about genetics, you’ll inherit things you get to deal with . Supplimnets are an excellent way to help offset whatever your dealing with as long as your getting advice from an actual doctor , homeopathic or nurse practitioner. Your fitness coach may be selling you the supplements they rep for . Some can be harmful if not taken properly .
Want to slow muscle mass loss and stay mobile ? Get OFF the couch . Need to loose weight ? Put less crap in your mouth.


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You can’t do much about genetics
Nope. Most people assume that steroids work for everyone and they don't. Genetics plays a huge role. Supplements not so much - in my opinion the only supplements that are really worth it are:

* caffeine for its effects on energy and minor role in raising metabolism
* ephedrine for increasing VO2 max and losing weight (be careful with this)
* creatine for the effects I listed above
* vitamin D for all of us Canadians that don't get much sun
* B vitamins that you should be getting from food anyway
* Omega-3 oils, of which fish sources are the best, for general wellness
* l-citrulline that you mix with caffeine before workout as pre-workout
* NMN for increasing overall wellness and energy
* magnesium if you have bowel problems and/or sleeping problems
* whey protein for a post-workout meal, or a quick clean meal

Of that list, the vitamins, protein and the creatine are the safest, with some of the others needing care - for example mixing ephedrine and l-citrulline could seriously raise heart rate, and both of those require careful moderation since they will work with other things (for example, taking Viagra under the effects of l-citrulline could cause a low blood-pressure condition). Most of those supplements will give minor improvements and the ones for weight loss do work to burn slightly more calories, but should be used with other strategies such as fasting (optimising insulin effects) if at all.

Best to get many of these things from food when you can. A mixed vitamin is largely a waste of time since most of them are not bio-available and if you're eating a reasonable diet, you're getting enough of the important vitamins anyway.

Your fitness coach may be selling you the supplements they rep for . Some can be harmful if not taken properly .
If your fitness coach doesn't understand the supplements and how they might work together, then they're not trustworthy.
 
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I find benefits from curcumin (turmeric), it has anti inflammatory properties and I find it helps a lot with old man pains.

I was taking collagen and I was finding many benefits BUT I am prone to keloids and a recent injury on my arm went keloid crazy when it healed and it just kept getting bigger. I stopped taking the collagen and it went way down pretty quickly. I plan on adding it back in to the routine at some point but with some caution if I get another penetrating wound...
 
A friend many years ago was a workout addict. He took "muscle building" drinks to build bulk. But it also diluted his blood. He was on antibiotics for a strep throat and then dropped a weight on his knee which scraped it and created a staff infection. He was fine on Fri, but died on Sat night of toxic shock.
 
But it also diluted his blood.
That's not how it works. At all. More likely he was taking something you didn't know about, or if his blood really was diluted then it was the opposite of taking mass drinks that caused it. Blood thickens with food intake and even vasodilators like l-citrulline just open the blood vessels, they do not dilute blood. Steroids don't either, they usually thicken blood with high red corpuscle generation.

Aspirin can thin blood to a degree, but I doubt that had an effect.

Much more likely that a staph infection killed them because of an immune deficiency or just because it's bloody dangerous for all of us.
 
That's not how it works. At all. More likely he was taking something you didn't know about, or if his blood really was diluted then it was the opposite of taking mass drinks that caused it. Blood thickens with food intake and even vasodilators like l-citrulline just open the blood vessels, they do not dilute blood. Steroids don't either, they usually thicken blood with high red corpuscle generation.

Aspirin can thin blood to a degree, but I doubt that had an effect.

Much more likely that a staph infection killed them because of an immune deficiency or just because it's bloody dangerous for all of us.
Diluted is probably the wrong word. Doctors said that because of the supplements, his system wasn't able to fight off the infections. And he was bad at not finishing prescriptions.
 
Not an expert on anything food related but lately I've been seeing younger/middle aged men state the benefits of things like TRT, peptides etc. Starting to wonder if I need to prepare for the same once I hit my 40s...
check your T levels next time you do a blood test and if they're low then maybe its something to consider, just make sure you understand and accept the risks associated
 
@Wingboy , I am sorry about your friend.

My wife was a nurse when she worked with an interest in pharma . Her best friend is a kinesiologist ( still working) ? And can tell you a lot about what to take or not take because one thing offsets another and sometimes in a bad way. Talking to a pharmacist is a good route . The juice bar at your local gym may be the most dangerous place to get advice .


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