Sport bike riders, I have questions for you!

RoguePredator

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I'm not really sure where to post this, considering I'm new here, but, I have some questions. Stupid questions, but things I'd like to know, especially since I'll be riding in the future.

1) can your tire slip going around a corner? I saw a couple of YouTube videos of this happening, wondering if it's common and why it happens, what I can do to prevent it.
2) common reasons motorcyclists crash? Ways to avoid them?
3) how many of you actually wave to fellow riders? Is it expected? Never really got this.
4) how many car drivers got ****** at you for following the law, or for no apparent reason at all? How do you handle the situation?
5) any wisdom from you sport bike riders for a noob is appreciated also. I'll take anything I can get. I'm here to learn. I'm currently looking at Kawasaki ninjas for a first ride.
 
1. Yes. Sand or other debris on road. Too much throttle. Prevent by avoiding dirt/gravel on road surface, proper throttle control, or a bike with traction control.
2. http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?52355-Why-we-crash
3. I wave to everyone. Do as you personally please. I don't expect it in return. I do it out of respect for my fellow brethren - we all share a little bit of crazy.
4. Car do not get ****** if you ride respectful and obey the laws. If anything, I get more space/respect on my bike then in a car. How to handle it? Just leave - remove yourself from the area/situation.
5. Advice for new sport bike riders - "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code
 
3. If the oncoming rider just drops a couple/three fingers off the handlebar grip I don't bother waving back because I assume he's just not that into me. Your other concerns I will address as your post count grows. I don't like too waste to much of my valuable time on dreamers. Have a nice day:)
 
RoguePredator said:
I'm not really sure where to post this, considering I'm new here, but, I have some questions. Stupid questions, but things I'd like to know, especially since I'll be riding in the future.
3) how many of you actually wave to fellow riders? Is it expected? Never really got this.
4) how many car drivers got ****** at you for following the law, or for no apparent reason at all? How do you handle the situation?
5) any wisdom from you sport bike riders for a noob is appreciated also. I'll take anything I can get. I'm here to learn. I'm currently looking at Kawasaki ninjas for a first ride.
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1) can your tire slip going around a corner? I saw a couple of YouTube videos of this happening, wondering if it's common and why it happens, what I can do to prevent it.

Crappy throttle control, using too much lean (body positioning, and throttle control both come in play here), hitting anything slippery while leaned (this includes painted lanes, they are extremely slippery wet or cold), and scraping pegs/hard parts resulting in something catching.

2) common reasons motorcyclists crash? Ways to avoid them?

Riding way too far out of your comfort zone. Listen to your body. If you find yourself having tunnel vision and fixating on things, or death gripping the bars, slow the **** down!

3) how many of you actually wave to fellow riders? Is it expected? Never really got this.

Very rarely do I not get a wave back. I'll even wave if leaned over lol You'll get it eventually.

4) how many car drivers got ****** at you for following the law, or for no apparent reason at all? How do you handle the situation?

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5) any wisdom from you sport bike riders for a noob is appreciated also. I'll take anything I can get. I'm here to learn. I'm currently looking at Kawasaki ninjas for a first ride.

Don't start on a supersport bike.
 
1,2 and 5 - Lots of info in the New Rider Section. Start reading ;)

3 - I wave to almost everyone when it is safe. If I can't take my hand off the bar I give a nod.

4 - People are gonna get ****** with you on a bike or a cage for no reason. Just keep away from them, even pull off somewhere or take a detour route to get away from them. You can't really win again a cage on a moto.
 
油井緋色;2315554 said:

5) any wisdom from you sport bike riders for a noob is appreciated also. I'll take anything I can get. I'm here to learn. I'm currently looking at Kawasaki ninjas for a first ride.

Don't start on a supersport bike.
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I say the opposite... it's all about your self-control.
I started on a 600cc Super sports and did just fine. Then again, I wasn't trying to pop wheelie's on my second go..


OP - take the below for what it's worth:
600cc sport bikes are fast, but they are not a mountain of torque waiting to burst at the slightest movement in your wrist. When I first wanted to get a 600cc sports bike, EVERYONE told me I'm going to crash/loop/flip over. Not true.. take it easy and learn and you can do fine.

Having said that.. I had plenty of hairy situations on a SS bike that could have been completely avoided on a smaller engine bike when i was first starting out.
 
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Dresden said:
I say the opposite... it's all about your self-control.
I started on a 600cc Super sports and did just fine. Then again, I wasn't trying to pop wheelie's on my second go..
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I agree..for the street. I have no self control. I accidentally popped a wheelie first day getting my 750 because I hamfisted the throttle out of curiosity lol You could do that on my old GS500 without any problems.

If the OP plans to get into track days...well, that's a different story. You build foundations better on a smaller machine and work your way up.
 
1. Yes, but it is unusual and easily avoided. Also, not the end of the world as the tire will quickly regain traction if you have just hit a small bit of debris. Anything bigger you will have seen well in advance.
2. Alcohol, speed, no training, compounded by poor gear. Lots on the Web about this. With good equipment and training and self control you are almost as safe as in a car.
3. You will develop a spider sense for other bikes and love seeing them. Most riders share this. So I wave.
4. The car is an inanimate object. Is the car a potential danger? Respond accordingly and move on. Who gives a **** if the driver is ******.
5. Riding is riding. Sports riding is one subset and is only markedly different if you mean track. So start with Hough and get to Code.

Enjoy!
 
Dresden said:
I say the opposite... it's all about your self-control. I started on a 600cc Super sports and did just fine.
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Having said that.. I had plenty of hairy situations on a SS bike that could have been completely avoided on a smaller engine bike when i was first starting out.
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Intriguing, Dresden... Some sort of weird reverse psychology? Subliminal messaging? Or sober second thought?
 
Furpo said:
Intriguing, Dresden... Some sort of weird reverse psychology? Subliminal messaging? Or sober second thought?
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I like your previous post which mentions riding being riding and sports bikes being one subset of the bigger picture. On that note, OP should ask themselves what their objective is.

I'll say that when I first started out, my fun was derived from going fast. Now I get most of my joy from a few quick bursts, but happy to just be out motoring on some back roads. :)
 
I would like to suggest taking a rider training course if you are new to riding. They can be expensive but worth every penny IMHO
 
Most people cannot over-lean the profile of a sport bike tire. Most of the time & that's probably 90% of the time people crash because they didn't lean the bike enough. I am talking SS bikes
 
^ That's called "failure to turn". One way to address it is to take an advanced riding course. Failure to understand proper cornering technique, failure to look far enough ahead, failure to correctly judge the proper line through a corner, etc.
 
Surprised no one's told him to go read/watch Twist of the Wrist II yet lol
 
Start watching MotoGp or World Superbike racing if you want to learn about how they crash all on their own. Isle of Man if you want to see the other types of perils.
 
1. Yes, Smooth throttle roll on.
2. Target fixation, look where you want to go.
3.Sometimes wave.
4.Just ignore it
5. Look where you want to go, don't be a ****** bag.
 
AF4iK said:
Surprised no one's told him to go read/watch Twist of the Wrist II yet lol
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It's a girl, which I totally respect for not using the girl card, at least in this thread. Twist of the wrist is m/c related btw.
 
AF4iK said:
Surprised no one's told him to go read/watch Twist of the Wrist II yet lol
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First reply did lol. Also, for ease of watching and since most people are lazy these days:

[video=youtube;KVWLIfChUwg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWLIfChUwg[/video]
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