Speed camera update (Sept.11)

Depends if the cruise works at those sorts of speeds necessary. My car won't trigger until 40kph, and some of our local school zones are 30kph (which I think is beyond ridiculously low, but meh), and the absolute lowest speed the cruise will enable on my tractor is 57kph, which is clearly based on it's US roots as that translates to 35mph, so it's useless trying to get through 50kph speed/camera zones - I tend to go through any area with a 50kph camera at 40 instead as extra insurance - when your job is on the line vs just losing a few bucks out of your wallet, you tend to care more about these sorts of things.

I did have someone lose their marbles behind me one time, came around me in the typical road rager panic, only to see the flash a few seconds later when they blew past the camera they obviously had no awareness of despite all the signage. These are the sorts of people I have zero sympathy for getting these tickets.
lordy, no cameras that i travel through at those speeds...all 50, i set cruise for 60 and just get on with it
 
I swear the more affluent neighbourhoods in TO don't have or have hardly any cameras. The hood (Scarborough) is littered with them, and everyone drives like they are crawling or 10 under the limit. For me to get to the 401, which is about 3k, I pass 3 cameras, 2 red light, and 1 speed.
Similar situation here in the hood 'Rexdale' as well
 
There are three different models. The most common is camera is owned and maintained by camera company who keeps iirc 30%. Less common is municipality owns the cameras and pays another municipality to process tickets (Iirc 10-15% of ticket goes to processor). Last is fully in-house, I think that may be just peel.
Yes, I believer Traffipax LLC (Jenoptik AG) has contracts with most cities if not all of Ontario.
I could be mistaken though.
 
They have one on mountain view going north in Georgetown
 
Never knew such things existed.

Cell-phone usage and seat belt usage cameras.


 
The UK is at a whole different level with surveillance, although I see the Oz uses them too. Given the reception of even municipal level photo radar, and the continued reluctance for the province themselves to touch it again with a 100 foot pole from a political suicide standpoint, I'm not sure we'll be seeing seatbelt and phone cameras anytime soon here.

Here's one of the photos from the detection systems in use in the UK.

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I'm not sure if it takes a photo from a more forward angle as well where the driver can be identified at the same time, or if this is it. If no face in the photo to confirm who's driving, it might be handled the same as the current photo radar - just a fine to the vehicle owner, no demerits or anything on ones record. Not sure how the system works beyond that.

I've heard some US states have tried these, not sure if still in use or not, and how it's handled from an enforcement standpoint. I've heard about them being on overpasses as well but not sure if that's legit.
 
Do these people think they're just going to give up and remove the camera?

They're just going to fix it and put it right back up again, and it'll continue doing its thing, or eventually replace it with one of the newer style systems that aren't going to be so easy to vandalize. I've been seeing this style increasingly often now with the cameras usually 10+ feet up on the poles.

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Do these people think they're just going to give up and remove the camera?

They're just going to fix it and put it right back up again, and it'll continue doing its thing, or eventually replace it with one of the newer style systems that aren't going to be so easy to vandalize. I've been seeing this style increasingly often now with the cameras usually 10+ feet up on the poles.

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Parkside is mounted up a pole now. I think all five of the times it was cut down it was pole mounted. Before that, it found itself sleeping more than a klr. Like a klr, just stand it up and keep going but lots of time laying down and losing revenue.
 
Parkside is mounted up a pole now. I think all five of the times it was cut down it was pole mounted. Before that, it found itself sleeping more than a klr. Like a klr, just stand it up and keep going but lots of time laying down and losing revenue.
I actually drove by it yesterday monring while it was still up. I sort of laughed as I remembered all the articles about it being chopped down.

Not sure how it was done before but here is the current set up. You can see where its head has been cut off.

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Looks like a handful of bolts, a new arm, re bolt things, and fixed.

They should probably start looking at the people on the high-score list for this specific camera as suspects lol.
 
Looks like a handful of bolts, a new arm, re bolt things, and fixed.

They should probably start looking at the people on the high-score list for this specific camera as suspects lol.
I found it particularly funny the time they tossed it in the pond! That time I'm sure it took more than merely reattaching the camera to the pole.

Years ago when I worked for the TTC, Parkside was a posted 50kph zone. It was my experience that traffic moved along at a speed close to that because radar enforcement was there pretty much every day. Dropping the speed limit and putting in speed cameras is not going to solve the issue. If the City really wants to improve safety and control traffic they need to have active enforcement in this area again. Sending tickets by mail weeks after the offence will not slow traffic on the day of the "speeding" event.

Parkside Drive is a problem because it is one of the very few routes that can be used to get from Lakeshore Blvd up to Bloor Street. When they closed off the access via High Park to through vehicle traffic, they lost one of the alternates. If the City tries to do something "more extreme" they will most likely push that traffic over onto another route, i.e. South Kingsway, Windermere, Ellis, or Jameson and that will cause more traffic related issues in those communities.
 
Ive done a test in Hamilton if I drove 30 I never have to stop... then why is the speed 60... so I stop at every light. And guess what happens at unsuspecting reds... people get smushed. I guess idling at every intersection is good for the environment and you break up traffic by keeping everyone together.
 
Ive done a test in Hamilton if I drove 30 I never have to stop... then why is the speed 60... so I stop at every light. And guess what happens at unsuspecting reds... people get smushed. I guess idling at every intersection is good for the environment and you break up traffic by keeping everyone together.
And if you do well over 100 you can beat the next light. Choose your destiny.
 
Ive done a test in Hamilton if I drove 30 I never have to stop... then why is the speed 60... so I stop at every light. And guess what happens at unsuspecting reds... people get smushed. I guess idling at every intersection is good for the environment and you break up traffic by keeping everyone together.
Hamilton used to have king and main lights synchronized so driving at the speed limit got you all greens. Iirc, that was changed a few years ago to piss everybody off.
 
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I dunno about that. Speed cameras are universally despised ... except for the one you want them to put on "your" street.
 
Here are people with some good points and stupid points on speed cameras. When arguing for a road redesign for parkside to better control speed (the right approach imo), one guy wants an "equitable reallocation of road space" for different modes of transportation and pedestrians. Right now 90% of parkside is dedicated to motor vehicles. If you run the math on the number of people using other modes of transportation as well as pedestrians, I suspect you'll find that motor vehicles deserve a much larger percentage to get the equitability he is looking for. Even in the summer, people in vehicles exceed everybody else more than 10:1. In the winter, it's probably more than 100:1.

Parkside should have no bike lanes. Bikes can go through the park with no vehicles if they want protection or they can ride with traffic. Going down the hill, it is easy to maintain speed limit. The dedicated bike lanes council voted for are peak wankerism and nothing more than war on the car.

Of the strategies the city is considering to decrease speeds, five are administrative and are far more about revenue generation than speed control. One is effective. Not surprised. Wankers.


“Alongside ASE cameras, the City is deploying other strategies that help alter driver behaviour and decrease speeds, such as engineering improvements including traffic calming, speed limit reductions, senior, school and community safety zones, the Watch Your Speed Program, driver education and more,” the spokesperson said.
 
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