Riceburner
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Good point. The average person doesn't have the best knowledge of weapons....or sight.
.I like the track idea much better than lying about a gun. Chances are it disappears when you're not there. Are going to lie about the suspect's description as well?
.This theft prevention tool is interesting. It's a steering wheel mounted taser. Perhaps something similar could be developed for motorcycles.
http://www.netside.net/~spyshops/Stunguns1.html
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When you buy a bike, you still get the ownership. I have a spare frame that I could use for track only (can't be used on street anymore) that I have the ownership to. If I sold it, the ownership goes with it. You don't HAVE to get it plated and insured to switch ownership. Even if only 5% of stolen bikes end up at the track, that's a potential 5% reduction with very little to no cost (assuming Wynne doesn't spearhead it, then it'll cost a fortune and nothing will get done). To completely eliminate bike theft is a dream, and there will not be a single 'act' that will bring this dream to fruition. It will take a series of small steps to lessen the chance of a bike being stolen.
May not help prevent the initial theft but might help cops in tracking it and zooming in on the location of the thieve's garage and/or chop-shop.
https://trackimo.com/gps-motorcycle-tracker/
The examples you gave really are the exceptions. R6, R1, GSXR xxxx, ZX-xx are more the norm, and lets be honest here, when was the last time you read that a MGS-01 got stolen from an underground parking garage? Furthermore, cops aren't quite as dumb as we'd like them to be, and I'd like to assume that if they did do anything along these lines they would assign cops that actually know about motorcycles.I understand if you buy a frame with a vin number it comes with an ownership. I am talking about bikes that have no VIN from bikes that were purpose built non street legal ever. Yamaha TZ250, Aprilia RS250 challenge cup bikes, Honda RS250s, Moto Guzzi MGS-01 etc. None of those bikes would have an "Ownership" per say just a bill of sale and if you aren't the original owner you will have a hand written note from the last guy. What police officer is going to understand that? I own an Aprilia RS250 and it has a stamp right on the frame that states for use on closed circuit race only on it. I have no "ownership" other than a bill of sale does that mean I shouldn't be able to use it at the track?
I think motorcycle theft sucks and we should find a way to curb it. I just seriously think chasing track bikes is going to reduce theft by exactly nil. It will only cause trouble for guys at the track that don't have ownership or god forbid forget it at home.
油井緋色;2495852 said:.......you guys are making this so complicated.
Just shoot the damn thieves!
I'm sure we can find a friend or two from America that wouldn't mind lending a hand.....cause 'murica.
A member here has an rs125 with that stamp. Iirc He has ownership and plated for the street.I understand if you buy a frame with a vin number it comes with an ownership. I am talking about bikes that have no VIN from bikes that were purpose built non street legal ever. Yamaha TZ250, Aprilia RS250 challenge cup bikes, Honda RS250s, Moto Guzzi MGS-01 etc. None of those bikes would have an "Ownership" per say just a bill of sale and if you aren't the original owner you will have a hand written note from the last guy. What police officer is going to understand that? I own an Aprilia RS250 and it has a stamp right on the frame that states for use on closed circuit race only on it. I have no "ownership" other than a bill of sale does that mean I shouldn't be able to use it at the track?
I think motorcycle theft sucks and we should find a way to curb it. I just seriously think chasing track bikes is going to reduce theft by exactly nil. It will only cause trouble for guys at the track that don't have ownership or god forbid forget it at home.
Why not just have tracks check ownership? Lets be honest here, most of the bikes that are stolen are SS's from underground parking garages. Those SS's then become track bikes. If you had to prove ownership of the bike before being allowed on track, it would make the theft less desirable. I'm sure some theft would still occur as bikes are shipped in parts, or parted out locally, but it would cost the public essentially nothing and would help at least a little bit. Take it a step further and have an undercover cop at the track checking vin's. Anything stolen and the person gets charged. Again, minimal cost to the taxpayer and a better use of cops time than sitting in their cars at road construction sites for reasons I have still yet to figure out.
more complicated that you think....
I said most bikes stolen are SS's, which from what I've read, seems to be completely accurate. And at no point did I say that this was a 100% fix for a problem. Reread any of my posts and you will find I'm offering this as an inexpensive option that could lower theft rates. If you have the option to spend a ton of money on one big solution with no certainty of it working, or spending almost nothing on 20 solutions that each have almost no certainty of working, then I think the latter option is better.So most thefts turn into track bikes? And said bikes still have the Vin. On them? Really?
Easily jammed by the thieves, waste of time.
Stink bomb or smoke bomb that goes off when the bike is on its side and the ignition is off. Can be harmless smoke (I am not talking mixing bleach and ammonia here). Dirt bags will think it is on fire and will abandon the bike and van on the spot.