Should Ontario ban outlaw biker club names, logos in public

justride said:
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Should Ontario ban outlaw biker club names, logos in public?

Quebec's public security minister has tabled proposed legislation to do so in that province.
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There is a little goody for the politicians also in the Bill
The proposed legislation, known as Bill 13, also includes ban protests near the homes of politicians.
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While I agree that politicians houses should be off-limits and protests should be at the legislature, I am sick of politicians labeling bills as one thing and burying unrelated things inside. This happens regardless of party and shows how low their moral character is.
 
'Would violate section 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and probably doesn't meet the standard/threshold of section 1of the charter as pertaining to "reasonable limits".

But... since when does any government provincial or federal give a chit about the charter??
 
Why would we want that. I if see a patched biker I assume they are a criminal, and why would politicians want to remove that great visual? I would go a step in the other direction and quote the great George Carlin, "politicians wearing labels is that they should wear sponsor patches just like NASCAR drivers, so voters know who they actually work for"
 
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Why would we want that. I if see a patched biker I assume they are a criminal, and why would politicians want to remove that great visual? I would go a step in the other direction and quote the great George Carlin, "politicians wearing labels is that they should wear sponsor patches just like NASCAR drivers, so voters know who they actually work for"
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It is my understanding that anyone that wears fake colours will regret it if they are caught by the real thing. So yeah, if you see colours, patches etc assume they are real and act appropriately.

Where do you draw the line? There is a Christian biker club and they dress up like pirates so are they similarly affected?
 
nobbie48 said:
It is my understanding that anyone that wears fake colours will regret it if they are caught by the real thing. So yeah, if you see colours, patches etc assume they are real and act appropriately.
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Doesn't quite jive with the good ol' boy toys for tots image does it?

Funny... They'll cry freedom of expression when the state tries to ban colours being worn in public, but if anyone not in their gang expresses themselves similarly all of a sudden their made up rules apply to people not in their club.."we dont live by society's rules, but... you gotta respect ours"
WTF?
MC culture has gotta be the most hypocritical, paradoxical, illogical, messed up social construct there is...
 
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Doesn't quite jive with the good ol' boy toys for tots image does it?

Funny... They'll cry freedom of expression when the state tries to ban colours being worn in public, but if anyone not in their gang expresses themselves similarly all of a sudden their made up rules apply to people not in their club.."we dont live by society's rules, but... you gotta respect ours"
WTF?
MC culture has gotta be the most hypocritical, paradoxical, illogical, messed up social construct there is...
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and the fakes

A buddy and his wife dress like pirates and hop on his open pipe Harley for a ride through pristine cottage country.

They stop for breakfast at a woodsy Range Rover tweed and leather place with a big patio. Blat, blat, blat, blat blat until the bike is parked and he wonders why people look at them like they're trailer trash.
 
Just like most "for the public good" Canadian legislation, evaluating the idea on its merit is almost pointless because it nearly always falls flat on its execution. Bill 13 was no exception, as it relies on a comical amount of discretionary power.

Excerpt:

"No one may expose to public view, in particular by wearing, disseminating,
posting or displaying it, any object identifying an entity entered on the list of
entities with a criminal purpose drawn up by the Minister that exhibits one of
the following symbols or names:
(1) a symbol, such as an emblem, an insignia or a representation, used by
the entity or associated with it or a symbol that could be mistaken for such a
symbol; or
(2) the name of the entity or another name, such as an abbreviation or
acronym, used by the entity or associated with it or a name that could be
mistaken for any of those names."

You could capture the act of wearing a Hell's Satans shirt with that language. The CCLA didn't like it either:

'“This could capture a teenager wearing a T-shirt that displays the logo of an environmental activist group whose members have been arrested for blocking a bridge,” said Howard Sapers, CCLA’s Executive Director. “Since anyone who helps or induces another person to commit an offence under this new Act commits the same offence, a parent giving their teenager such a T-shirt could be charged as well,” Sapers added.'

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Quebec’s Bill 13: Yet Another Attack on Quebecers’ Democracy - CCLA

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Nevertheless the bill received assent a month ago on April 2, 2026
 
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