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Regularly starting your bike in winter is bad

Certainly does and it doubles as a hideout when needed.

Pops

sure does

especially when the in-laws are invited over for a holiday
the turkey fryer gets setup out there and has to be strictly supervised
and as the fryer can't be left unattended, you have to bring your beers out beforehand
and no-untrained family members can be in the work area (whiners)
 
sure does

especially when the in-laws are invited over for a holiday
the turkey fryer gets setup out there and has to be strictly supervised
and as the fryer can't be left unattended, you have to bring your beers out beforehand
and no-untrained family members can be in the work area (whiners)
You run a turkey fryer inside? I've seen enough videos of that going wrong outside, no way I would be having that in my house. I'm ok with the supervising and beer. Maybe the fryer lives outside with a camera and the only place where you can watch the camera is on the monitor in the garage. Same non-whining food result, less raging inferno in the garage.
 
yeah, prolly not advisable
but can be done safely

btw, turkeys are dangerous
it's not always the equipment that's the problem

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I keep the silver bullet in the heated bat cave and start her up every couple weeks and let her get to operating temps, and ride when conditions allow. Burned about 15L gas over the winter.
 
Door from graj to beer fridge makes things all good.
Open and close of said door allows some heat transfer from laundry room. (home of beer fridge)
Seating for bs sessions with experienced friends (experienced means retired like me)
Smell of new rubber prompts another round of beers.
Discussion on LED headlight bulb installation takes about double the time of the actual installation.

Life is good now and bit of warm riding weather would be awesome.

Pops
 
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Yeah... I leave mine alone all winter.
Only to increase the rush I feel when that day comes where I do start it up in the spring..
That first Vroooom..! In the spring... feels sooo good

Mine was covered on stands in the corner of the garage, haven't seen or heard her run since November. Friday was a good day...took a second or two to clear her throat but that roar when she settled into a cold high idle was music to my ears.
 
4) Change oil & filter and any other fluids that need changing in the spring

Respectfully, I disagree with this Mad Mike. If you change them in the Spring then all the acids and other contaminants have been in the bike's oil all winter long have had months to do damage. If you change the oil after your last ride and store it with fresh oil it is not subjected to these attacks. Same difference, but a big difference!!!

I've had a stable of bikes for decades, none have ever been winterized other than fuel fill and Stabil. In the 40+ years I've wintered them this way, none have suffered premature wear or damage.
Me too - It all depends on where/how they are stored - I also just fill with non-ethanol (Shell Nitro) gas and add StaBil Marine 360 for the weeks leading up to the unknown date of my last ride. My storage is unheated attached garage and I have a Carb'd bike - down from 7 bikes (all Magna's) to 1 - a 1994 VF750C Magna road eater.

I should mention that I am "The Carb Spa" - a Honda V4 Carb Cleaning Specialist serving worldwide Customers.
 
I also just fill with non-ethanol (Shell Nitro)

Take note that Shell fuels, even the premium and the super premium...are no longer ethanol free as of late this past summer.

If you look close you'll see that all the "no ethanol" stickers have been removed now and there's just one big sticker that now says "May contain up to 10% ethanol".

I believe Canadian Tire premium is now the *only* option left.
 
I leave mine on an intelligent charger (Battery Tender Jr) - fill it with gas and stabilizer before the last ride; and part it in a climate controlled warehouse... (I'm lucky that I work for car guys - the back 1/4 of our warehouse has Mustangs, a Viper, 2 corvettes, a BMW coupe, a 69 Hemi Cuda, and tucked in the back, a lowly F750GS - parked in it for the winter)
 
2002 ZRX 1200R.
138,000 kms Lots of compression. lots of oil changes, lots of coolant changes.
on it's 3rd battery only. That's 3 batteries in 18 yrs. Never used a trickle charger.
I start it monthly in my garage that never gets below freezing.
I allow it to heat up at idle until the fan cycles twice then I shut it off.
No Stable, No nothing. Allows carbs to work and float bowls (remember those?) to clear and fill.

This process has caused me no problems at all.

Do what you like people but this has worked well for me.

Pops
A great bike.

Wish I never sold it....
 
The problem with starting a engine for a short period of time is the oil does not get up to full operating temp, which is 220 to 250 deg f.
Running the engine to the cooling fans come on does not get the oil temp up to where it needs to be to start to burn off moisture and contaminants that are by-product of combustion. If you are going to start it, be prepared to ride it for a least 30 to 45 minutes.
 
The problem with starting a engine for a short period of time is the oil does not get up to full operating temp, which is 220 to 250 deg f.
Running the engine to the cooling fans come on does not get the oil temp up to where it needs to be to start to burn off moisture and contaminants that are by-product of combustion. If you are going to start it, be prepared to ride it for a least 30 to 45 minutes.
It shouldn't need quite that long but I agree with your point. Oil should be up to temp in ~15 minutes of riding. Any water can't survive too long at 100C. I've never tried to idle until it's up to temp so I have no idea how long that takes. 30+ minutes idling seems plausible.
 
Ari from RevZilla just did a video on this for the Shop Manual series. Here's the link, however busted it may be as I'm posting this from a mobile browser:


Coles notes: it's bad, unless you let it run long enough for the lower side covers to get too hot to touch. This is waaaaay longer than just waiting for the coolant gauge to show operating temp...
 
Used to just wheel the bike into the garden shed after the last ride and pull the battery. Period.
Come spring add battery and turn key.
 
The problem with starting a engine for a short period of time is the oil does not get up to full operating temp, which is 220 to 250 deg f.
Running the engine to the cooling fans come on does not get the oil temp up to where it needs to be to start to burn off moisture and contaminants that are by-product of combustion. If you are going to start it, be prepared to ride it for a least 30 to 45 minutes.

haha. I know one guy whose bike has never left the 416. He rides it every weekend to the coffee shop, parks it and stares at it while sipping his latte, then rides it back home and polishes it.

Bike is probably close to 10 years old now and that engine has never seen more than 30 minutes of continuous run-time... Also less than 10K on the odo.
 

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