Oh, this gorgeus Electric will sell...

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CafeRay

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..in the tens...

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It looks like he's doing something obscene to an Easter egg.

http://www.agilitymotors.com/bikes/saietta-r.html

Only £13,975.00.
 
Designer on bad drugs
 
Id like to see anyone wheelie that thing - 95% of the mass is up front!
 
Ever plot the torque curve on an electric....it NEEDS the weight up front.

Everyone crows about horsepower, but torque is what you feel when you nail the gas pedal or twist the throttle. It’s a better measure of acceleration, and for 2014, Zero has cracked the infamous 100 pound-foot mark with its new SR electric motorcycle.

Torque is measured in pound feet — or, for the rest of the world, Newton-meters — and the Zero SR puts down 106 lb-ft — 56 percent more than its standard S counterpart, and a figure that brings it in line with some of the biggest, brashest, and beefiest bikes in the world. But unlike those bruisers and cruisers, the SR tips the scales at a relatively svelte 400 pounds. High grunt and low mass let you hit 60 mph in 3.3 seconds.
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http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/11/2014-zero-sr/
 
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That company should be called, HUGE FAIL IN LIFE MOTORS!

I'd rather buy this. This is the real future of bikes.

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2WET said:
That company should be called, HUGE FAIL IN LIFE MOTORS!

I'd rather buy this. This is the real future of bikes.

[video=youtube;WypZvsIj8-k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WypZvsIj8-k[/video]
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I'm liking the Mission, but for $30-$40K, I would expect semi-active suspension and ABS, at the least.
 
CafeRay said:
I'm liking the Mission, but for $30-$40K, I would expect semi-active suspension and ABS, at the least.
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You don't have to worry about paying 30-40k for it, if you've ever studied economy, there is a product life bell curve. Which explains, that there are three groups of people who buy products.

The first half are the ones who have what every amount of money you can think of and can afford new technology and want to be the first to own newest products, the other half of this are the ones who'd pay anything to have the newest technology by finding what ever ways to afford it, and in this life cycle of the product... it is the most expensive. These people are the reason most products become cheaper, affordable down the line, if such people didn't buy it the product would die before hitting the main markets. The same thing happened with hybrid cars, now its in the median stage, still pricy but not expensive, and many people have those, one day everyone will have one, because it will just become normal technology, being replaced by some new expensive idea.

When the product hits stage two, in the median of this bel curve, the first group of people sell it as new used, and find some new thing to catch on too, and here comes the second group, people who will buy stuff based on quality but also price if its right. so this bike would be somewhere around 15 to 25k used, the last part of the product bell curve is the decline, usually the time period where people like yourself id assume would purchase the product, when it becomes common technology and cheap, reliable and easy to attain, as this group of the decline curve purchases products strictly based on price and what you can get for it compared to something else.At this point the product is being sold based on numbers and not its ingenuity.

This bike will eventually cost the same if not less then most current jap gas bikes one day.

As for the ABS - semi active suspension comment, that's strange coming from some one called "cafe racer" lol

personally i'd buy this bike, regardless of abs, i hate ESP, ABS, Traction Control all these aids...
 
2WET said:
This bike will eventually cost the same if not less then most current jap gas bikes one day.

As for the ABS - semi active suspension comment, that's strange coming from some one called "cafe racer" lol
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Most people into cafe -style bikes these days are now hipsters who ride unsafe junk to attempt look cool. No different than the chopper crowd ten years ago.

People who hate TC and ABS have never ridden a bike with TC and ABS. Riding a high powered bike without TC is just stupid, which is why so many get killed on those bikes. Even MotoGP bikes use TC, and they have sticky wide heated slicks. Same with ABS, you now can buy Superbike power and weight, but on hard treaded street tires. Tons of YouTube videos of people crashing from locking the front, either low-side of complete endos. No one can stop better than ABS, and you're fool if you think you can. the real world has rain, crap roads, spilled coolant, diesel, sand, and a bunch of other stuff you can't see.

All electrics have inherent TC through the power modulator -you have to have this or the bike cannot be ridden as 150 ftlbs of torque comes on all at once.

If I spend $30K on a bike, I'd expect the best brakes and suspension, not just some novelty to ride out for coffee. Don't get me started on semi-active suspension, it's just better, amazing what some PhD engineers can come up with.

As for electrics dropping in price, not going to happen as long as the battery manufacturing is still at this level. They need a new battery technology that can make batteries much , much cheaper, and that's not even on the experimental bench yet. It's still just laptop batteries, from Tesla to Mission.
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