you're right.... it all depends if you're new school or old school...............
ride safe!
National Post Article re Excessive Noise
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you're right.... it all depends if you're new school or old school...............
ride safe!
Here's what bothers me about legislating loud pipes ... my bike came stock with fantastic sounding pipes. I rode with a guy this weekend who owns a Buell Lightning ... factory exhaust on that thing was really loud. Both bikes sound beautiful, in my opinion. However, it'll be the opinion of the cops that matter ... and I see a ride like the one I had this weekend being interrupted (possibly more than once) by cops assuming the pipes are too loud.
I would really prefer not to have to go through decibel checks every time I take my bike out and pass an unfamiliar LEO. Moreover, I like my bike too much to trade it in for a burgman.
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I would really prefer not to have to go through decibel checks every time I take my bike out and pass an unfamiliar LEO. Moreover, I like my bike too much to trade it in for a burgman.
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wtf happened?
-D-
Banned
:lmao:
I haven't heard any differently than reported in the news. Riding quickly, crashed into a pole (although given the propensity to exaggerate, quickly may have been 51 km/h).
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?176546-2013_09_07-rose-dale-valley-road-rip
You don't need much speed to get killed hitting a pole. I've seen it happen on a bicycle.
No real info, but 2am on a Saturday is a strange time.
I don't think it is strange at all. I have seen too many drunk or aggressive drivers weaving their car all over both road lanes and highways on Friday and Saturday evenings. They don't need to make physical contact to cause a problem. A sideswipe or sudden merge in my opinion would be plausible enough to cause someone to stumble and lose control as they fight to regain control especially if there was a pothole in a curve.
stevex
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By all accounts it was a single vehicle accident... given the road/time it occurred on, it probably was not the fault of another driver.. I know we as riders hate to admit that some times we are our own worst enemy, especially when it happens to a close friend of ours...hard pill to swallow when there's no finger to point
don't mean this as disrespect to anyone, RIP to the rider.
Yeah, sorry - I agree with you on that. The article doesn't do a good job of providing alternatives which are different from what is currently employed.
The point I was trying to make, is what makes a better alternative? What sort of blanket solution is there, that would not involve needing to be pulled over and checked? I feel like any reasonable solution would still involve that, otherwise, what - banning sales? Ticketing parked bikes with non OEM systems? I guess that could be a thing...
Griffin
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Other than the electric bike comment (at this point, for me) I agree completely.
Umm, nope.
Yep.
Depends on if you speak English or "common". Sort of like the use of "irregardless". Most people use it but it doesn't exist. Or, "I could care less". The proper phrase is "I could NOT care less". Saying you could care less actually means that you DO care.
The phrase is "if you think this, you have another THINK coming". Most people don't pay attention to the meaning of what they make come out of their mouths and have changed it to "you have another THING coming". What thing? There is no thing.
Not trying to be preachy and I appreciate the banter.
Roomie
Banned
This. I know when I was looking at pipes I was looking first at their db rating. I've since decided to leave it alone for now. Sounds just fine and I get noticed enough living out in the sticks with the only blue and white ss around.
As said somewhere else in this thread, the general public is very misinformed about a lot of things. Articles like this crap from a person with obviously zero knowledge on the subject other than what he searched on google are the problem.
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Banned
The majority of their readers or ~98% of them do not ride motorcycles and likely do not like them either.
The majority of readers likely experienced what we have with a straight pipe Harley "splitting our ear drums".
We created this problem. You look like a sad pathetic loser when you rev your engine on a congested street downtown while people are just sitting outside eating and trying to enjoy their night. Those bikes sound like POS but the owners think they are awesome.
Oh, another thing.
DO NOT start your bikes and leave them running with the exhaust pointed at people sitting out on a patio eating.
Just be polite/smart and roll the bike out and start it.
The majority of readers likely experienced what we have with a straight pipe Harley "splitting our ear drums".
We created this problem. You look like a sad pathetic loser when you rev your engine on a congested street downtown while people are just sitting outside eating and trying to enjoy their night. Those bikes sound like POS but the owners think they are awesome.
Oh, another thing.
DO NOT start your bikes and leave them running with the exhaust pointed at people sitting out on a patio eating.
Just be polite/smart and roll the bike out and start it.
SAE J2825 - Reasonable, repeatable, and not at all open to individual interpretation by the tester. Since we haven't managed to control ourselves we will be controlled by others, who are in the majority, and can only hope that the method of control is reasonable.
When the GTA had a total population of 500,000 and you could be in the boonies in 20 minutes, you could get away with loud pipes. Now that there are 'bedroom communities' that are 100 Km away from Toronto, with ten times the population in that same land area, not so much. You're either polite and attentive of your neighbour's feelings, or you're Detroit.
When the GTA had a total population of 500,000 and you could be in the boonies in 20 minutes, you could get away with loud pipes. Now that there are 'bedroom communities' that are 100 Km away from Toronto, with ten times the population in that same land area, not so much. You're either polite and attentive of your neighbour's feelings, or you're Detroit.
There is one issue with SAE J2825-based legislation, and that is the non-trivial cost of implementing it. Every cop that you want to be able to enforce it will need a testing device, and training on how to use it. It's preferable for riders/drivers, but not for police departments.
You can get a Type II sound level meter for <$250 (admittedly there are few in this price range, but they do exist.) Not every cop needs one, just one that can be called (like a K9 unit).
A more sensible way of implementing it would be to issue an inspection order (similar to when they suspect equipment problems). ie. you have 7 days to present your bike to a testing centre (collision reporting centre would make sense) for a test. That would limit the equipment and training required.
oh yes, motorcyclists never drink.
You can lessen your chances of ever being in a fatal road accident by 50 percent; if you keep off the road between 6pm Friday and 6am Sunday.
Kri$han
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****IN' WINNER! Top-level **** right here, man, bravo.
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Paid for by the first three-or-so tickets, that would be extremely difficult to fight in court. After that it's gravy.
