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Hey guys, so i was travelling to school when someone cut me off at about 60kmh, didnt have enough space between me and the car infront and slammed his brakes, we were going downhill so I did the same but the bike lowsided, luckily didnt rear end him though. I managed to get off before the bike actually hit the road and just rolled, bike went another 20M or so. I'm fine just mostly scrapes and sore, nothing broken though. Probably should replace my helmet.

I jus had a few questions, the gear shifter is bent, the frame sliders basically disappeared, the metal circular part of the engine took a beating but the frame is overall not scratched. Theres a bit more damage (throttle gets stuck, signals, etc) but I jus wanted to know a good place to get the bike checked out. Student budget so hopefully it isnt anything major, just mostly cosmetic.. I rode it home (bout 6km) and it seemed fine minus the gear shifter and parked it.

Any suggestions?
 
Heat up and bend the gear shifter back. If everything else is just cosmetic damage, just leave it. But if your throttle gets stuck, get it checked out even if you are on a student budget. Unless you know why it gets stuck...
 
There's lots of good shops around you. Rosey Toes would probably be the cheapest. Never ride with a sticky throttle.
 
Sounds like you have a Ninja 250 (every single time somebody drops one, the shifter will bend and block the shift rod). The sticky throttle is probably because the lever is bent slightly.

Call up Speedworx. They've done myself and all of my friends great service.

If they're too expensive, go to Rosey Toes but a lot of their fixes are hacky.
 
Did you use too much rear brake and have it slide out from beneath you? I'm just trying to picture how it happened because usually a lowside happens when you're in a lean and lose traction but it sounds like you were going straight...
 
thanks for the replies guys. I ride a 09 yamaha fz6r. I think the throttle is sticky because its moved a bit, im going to try and put it back in place and see if that temporarily fixes it. I also noticed now that it idles a bit lower than usual. usually its around 1500rpm but now its about 1000 or 1100.

I think what happened was me just grabbing the brakes to avoid hitting the car infront which led to the bike losing control, tbh it all happened way too fast. one second i notice the car infront the next im on the ground.
 
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072590581 said:
thanks for the replies guys. I ride a 09 yamaha fz6r. I think the throttle is sticky because its moved a bit, im going to try and put it back in place and see if that temporarily fixes it. I also noticed now that it idles a bit lower than usual. usually its around 1500rpm but now its about 1000 or 1100.
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Possibly colder weather?????

I dunno, I'm going to back out of this thread as I'm no good with technical things with bikes - just throwing ideas out there :P
 
072590581 said:
thanks for the replies guys. I ride a 09 yamaha fz6r. I think the throttle is sticky because its moved a bit, im going to try and put it back in place and see if that temporarily fixes it. I also noticed now that it idles a bit lower than usual. usually its around 1500rpm but now its about 1000 or 1100.
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Take it to be adjusted or replaced. This indicates a bent bracket or sticking cable. This can be dangerous.
 
yeah thanks everyone, gonna get it checked out completely some time next week, hopefully it'll get repaired and rideable before the absolute end of the season.

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072590581 said:
yeah thanks everyone, gonna get it checked out completely some time next week, hopefully it'll get repaired and rideable before the absolute end of the season.

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Check out Ken (kneedragger88 ) on this forum. He is an excellent mechanic, and will pick up and deliver your bike back for free.
 
did you exchange information with the driver that cut you off? did they stop? if not, did you get their plate? have you reported the accident? were there any witnesses? If you are deemed not at fault, insurance will waive your deductable and your rates shouldn't be affected.

I would recommend taking it to a dealer, then having your insurance company go to view the bike at the dealer. The dealer will take the insurance company through all of the damage and provide a list of parts and qoute. This is the best way to ensure that everthing is covered the first time.
 
evang said:
did you exchange information with the driver that cut you off? did they stop? if not, did you get their plate? have you reported the accident? were there any witnesses? If you are deemed not at fault, insurance will waive your deductable and your rates shouldn't be affected.

I would recommend taking it to a dealer, then having your insurance company go to view the bike at the dealer. The dealer will take the insurance company through all of the damage and provide a list of parts and qoute. This is the best way to ensure that everthing is covered the first time.
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As I understand the OP's description, he wasn't cut off, the car in front of him was cut off and hit the brakes hard. OP braked hard and lost control. It's a single vehicle accident and the OP could be facing careless if reported to police, IMO. If he had hit the car in front of him almost certainly a careless that would be reduced to following too closely at first time up.

There is never a good excuse for hitting the person in front of you just because they hit the brakes. By definition, you were following too closely if you hit them and you are not in control of your bike if you dump it.
 
Griffin said:
As I understand the OP's description, he wasn't cut off, the car in front of him was cut off and hit the brakes hard. OP braked hard and lost control. It's a single vehicle accident and the OP could be facing careless if reported to police, IMO. If he had hit the car in front of him almost certainly a careless that would be reduced to following too closely at first time up.

There is never a good excuse for hitting the person in front of you just because they hit the brakes. By definition, you were following too closely if you hit them and you are not in control of your bike if you dump it.
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^ absolutely this.
 
Griffin said:
As I understand the OP's description, he wasn't cut off, the car in front of him was cut off and hit the brakes hard. OP braked hard and lost control. It's a single vehicle accident and the OP could be facing careless if reported to police, IMO. If he had hit the car in front of him almost certainly a careless that would be reduced to following too closely at first time up.

There is never a good excuse for hitting the person in front of you just because they hit the brakes. By definition, you were following too closely if you hit them and you are not in control of your bike if you dump it.
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Male dumping bike vs Female dumping bike.

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...ss-is-injured-but-alive&p=2081315#post2081315

Guy gets "you were following too closely".
Female gets "omg, are you okay? Hope you feel better"

:lmao:
 
evang said:
did you exchange information with the driver that cut you off? did they stop? if not, did you get their plate? have you reported the accident? were there any witnesses? If you are deemed not at fault, insurance will waive your deductable and your rates shouldn't be affected.

I would recommend taking it to a dealer, then having your insurance company go to view the bike at the dealer. The dealer will take the insurance company through all of the damage and provide a list of parts and qoute. This is the best way to ensure that everthing is covered the first time.
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Without actual contact the only way you'd be held not at fault would be if a police report showed that you were forced off the road. Unfortunately if someone cuts you off and you rear end them (or in this case go down trying to avoid that) you're still at fault.
 
Wasted said:
Without actual contact the only way you'd be held not at fault would be if a police report showed that you were forced off the road. Unfortunately if someone cuts you off and you rear end them (or in this case go down trying to avoid that) you're still at fault.
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Subject to the other driver committing an offence (see 8(ii), below):

Definition, “stunt”
For the purposes of section 172 of the Act, “stunt” includes any activity where one or more persons engage in any of the following driving behaviours:
1. Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to lift some or all of its tires from the surface of the highway, including driving a motorcycle with only one wheel in contact with the ground, but not including the use of lift axles on commercial motor vehicles.
2. Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to cause some or all of its tires to lose traction with the surface of the highway while turning.
3. Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to spin it or cause it to circle, without maintaining control over it.
4. Driving two or more motor vehicles side by side or in proximity to each other, where one of the motor vehicles occupies a lane of traffic or other portion of the highway intended for use by oncoming traffic for a period of time that is longer than is reasonably required to pass another motor vehicle.
5. Driving a motor vehicle with a person in the trunk of the motor vehicle.
6. Driving a motor vehicle while the driver is not sitting in the driver’s seat.
7. Driving a motor vehicle at a rate of speed that is 50 kilometres per hour or more over the speed limit.
8. Driving a motor vehicle without due care and attention, without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway or in a manner that may endanger any person by,
i. driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to prevent another vehicle from passing,
ii. stopping or slowing down a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates the driver’s sole intention in stopping or slowing down is to interfere with the movement of another vehicle by cutting off its passage on the highway or to cause another vehicle to stop or slow down in circumstances where the other vehicle would not ordinarily do so,
iii. driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to drive, without justification, as close as possible to another vehicle, pedestrian or fixed object on or near the highway, or
iv. making a left turn where,
(A) the driver is stopped at an intersection controlled by a traffic control signal system in response to a circular red indication;
(B) at least one vehicle facing the opposite direction is similarly stopped in response to a circular red indication; and
(C) the driver executes the left turn immediately before or after the system shows only a circular green indication in both directions and in a manner that indicates an intention to complete or attempt to complete the left turn before the vehicle facing the opposite direction is able to proceed straight through the intersection in response to the circular green indication facing that vehicle. O. Reg. 455/07, s. 3.
 
Emefef said:
Subject to the other driver committing an offence (see 8(ii), below):

Definition, “stunt”
For the purposes of section 172 of the Act, “stunt” includes any activity where one or more persons engage in any of the following driving behaviours:
1. Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to lift some or all of its tires from the surface of the highway, including driving a motorcycle with only one wheel in contact with the ground, but not including the use of lift axles on commercial motor vehicles.
2. Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to cause some or all of its tires to lose traction with the surface of the highway while turning.
3. Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to spin it or cause it to circle, without maintaining control over it.
4. Driving two or more motor vehicles side by side or in proximity to each other, where one of the motor vehicles occupies a lane of traffic or other portion of the highway intended for use by oncoming traffic for a period of time that is longer than is reasonably required to pass another motor vehicle.
5. Driving a motor vehicle with a person in the trunk of the motor vehicle.
6. Driving a motor vehicle while the driver is not sitting in the driver’s seat.
7. Driving a motor vehicle at a rate of speed that is 50 kilometres per hour or more over the speed limit.
8. Driving a motor vehicle without due care and attention, without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway or in a manner that may endanger any person by,
i. driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to prevent another vehicle from passing,
ii. stopping or slowing down a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates the driver’s sole intention in stopping or slowing down is to interfere with the movement of another vehicle by cutting off its passage on the highway or to cause another vehicle to stop or slow down in circumstances where the other vehicle would not ordinarily do so,
iii. driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to drive, without justification, as close as possible to another vehicle, pedestrian or fixed object on or near the highway, or
iv. making a left turn where,
(A) the driver is stopped at an intersection controlled by a traffic control signal system in response to a circular red indication;
(B) at least one vehicle facing the opposite direction is similarly stopped in response to a circular red indication; and
(C) the driver executes the left turn immediately before or after the system shows only a circular green indication in both directions and in a manner that indicates an intention to complete or attempt to complete the left turn before the vehicle facing the opposite direction is able to proceed straight through the intersection in response to the circular green indication facing that vehicle. O. Reg. 455/07, s. 3.
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If a cop sees the other person brake check you or try to create an accident than that's obviously different. I've seen that once in the whole time I've been adjusting tho.
 
Wasted said:
If a cop sees the other person brake check you or try to create an accident than that's obviously different. I've seen that once in the whole time I've been adjusting tho.
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I didn't mean to suggest it was common - it's just the so many discussions in this forum are full of "always" and "never". Then when someone accurately says "almost always", someone else will look for the exception. I wanted to show that although there is an exception, it's going to be very rare, and the circumstances a whole lot different.
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