yodude
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who cares, got a prob with rules? too bad
Looks like Photo Radar is coming back..!
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That's actually an interesting idea...call it a "speed toll", no points just an admin fee which they can apply against your sticker renewal therefore your insurance company is cut out of the loop which removes driver's complaints of not the fee that hurts but the increased insurance rate.
about $25 a shot...seems like easy cash to rake it that most ppl will just pay it, slow down for a few months and back at it again.
kwtoxman
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That is actually a pretty comprehensive study - much more so than I expected, and it appears that a few other municipalities including Halton have applied the same logic. From going through the charts (and from observations this summer), not all speed limits have gone down ... some of them have gone up. Halton, in particular, has fixed a couple of notorious speed traps by doing this. The Caledon one recommended a higher speed limit on one particular road that I know of which was under-posted ... I haven't passed by there in the last few days to see if they have posted the new higher speed limit. They're applying 40 km/h across the board within villages ... this doesn't trouble me too much as long as the 40 zone isn't unreasonably outside the built-up area.
The recommendations seem overly conservative (too low), but at least now it's about the same degree of too-low everywhere instead of a hodgepodge mess in which similar-looking roads have different speed limits (and the study talks about this).
One quirk in their methodology is that if a road is judged to be "arterial" based on traffic volume and actual traffic speed e.g. Chinguacousy, then it gets a higher speed limit (80 km/h) than a road with less traffic (70 km/h) - e.g. Creditview, next road west - even though recently-paved Creditview is in much better condition than Chinguacousy is.
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yodude
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Said the Nazi's. lol. Serious.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=the+...&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=h3ZHWM7uNMGajwOxoZOoDA
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ok, so we put him down as not previously voting for her
where are the majority that voted for her, we never hear from 1 of them...defend your position
kwtoxman
Well-known member
Said the Nazi's. lol. Serious.
From your link,
As I said, it was a literal comparison, not hyperbole or figurative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
Yes, as noted from your first quote above, your absolutism on "following rules no matter what" is a joke; it's discounted with the previous literal comparison as well as with even basic junior high school logic.
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Follow-up on this. The recommended speed limit changes have not been correctly applied in all cases.
The first exception that I have found so far is Cataract Road. See page 17 of the PDF. http://www.caledon.ca/en/townhall/resources/PW-2015-085.pdf
Previously this was 80 from Charleston Side Road to the north edge of the village (500 m south of Charleston - the table incorrectly states that this used to be a 50 zone although the map of existing speed limits is correct) then 50 through the village all the way to Mississauga Road.
The recommendation was to change it to 60 from Charleston to 500 m south of Charleston, 40 through the village, then 60 from the south edge of the village (850 m east of Mississauga Road) to Mississauga Road. In other words, 40 through the village, 60 outside the village. Fair enough.
What has actually been posted is 40 for the full length of Cataract Road including the parts outside of the village. No one will follow this!
The second exception is the Grange Sideroad. The section from Mississauga Road to Creditview is supposed to change from 50 to 60. The 50 sign is still there. (I doubt if cops patrol this gravel road much)
More digging. Caledon only implemented the reductions, not the increases! But even this was incorrectly applied. The reduction on Cataract Road was only supposed to be applied through the village, not for the whole length of the road.
https://www.caledon.ca/en/townhall/resources/StaffReport2016-92.pdf
https://www.caledon.ca/en/townhall/resources/StaffReport2016-92.pdf
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Face
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Brian, this report was delayed a year, and some changes were made in that time. Did you compare the posted speeds with the latest report and Council resolution. That could be where further reductions were made.
https://www.caledon.ca/en/townhall/resources/StaffReport2016-92.pdf
https://www.caledon.ca/en/townhall/speed-limits.asp
If there are still errors, you should write to the head of the Works Department outlining these errors. Copy the Mayor, affected Ward Councillors and the City Clerk. They all need to be aware if staff have not followed the direction of Council.
https://www.caledon.ca/en/townhall/resources/StaffReport2016-92.pdf
https://www.caledon.ca/en/townhall/speed-limits.asp
If there are still errors, you should write to the head of the Works Department outlining these errors. Copy the Mayor, affected Ward Councillors and the City Clerk. They all need to be aware if staff have not followed the direction of Council.
They screwed up on Cataract Road by posting the whole thing at 40 instead of just the prescribed section (850 m east of Mississauga Road to 500 m south of Charleston - basically, just the village). But they also screwed up on Chinguacousy Road north of King Street by posting it at 70 instead of 60. That one is not too troubling, but the excessively long 40 zone on either side of Cataract is extremely annoying (I just drove through there today).
Do you live in Caledon? I don't. It would probably carry more weight if it were a resident of Caledon who pointed out the Cataract Road situation.
Do you live in Caledon? I don't. It would probably carry more weight if it were a resident of Caledon who pointed out the Cataract Road situation.
Face
Well-known member
No, I'm in Scarborough and hardly get out that way.
Not shocking, really. But on the other hand how difficult it is to follow an approved table of numbers???
