Is this a scam? Sounds like it....

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The way the scam works is that he gets a dialogue going withyou so that you think he’s got the bike with a shipper. Once you trust him a little, he’ll come back to you with some kind of problem with the trucking company and wants you to pay half of some BS ‘fee’. You eventually agree because you’re getting a bike at a steal of a price and wire $250 or something to a ‘trucking company’. There’s no bike, there’s no shipping company and you’re out $250.
 
You are not paying till all is cool with the bike and paperwork PERIOD...AND STICK TO THAT...NO CHANGES!!...Tell the seller that is THE ONLY DEAL THAT WORKS FOR YOU. Meet at the MTO or COP SHOP just to let them know you are worried. Tell them you are taking a pic of the vehicles, the driver, and his ID to cover your @ss! I bought a bike for my kid that seemed pretty shady...did the above (still have info on file), and all was legit with a great price! Seller was just short on time so not a lot of options.
Good luck either way...keep us posted.
 
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Tell him to have a meet in Spring, post on meetups forum. Invite me & other bikers there.

Should be tons of fun. Remind me to bring camera
 
jeffjones said:
Do you have any neighbors you don't like?
Send them there and see what happens?

I still don't understand how the scam works as he said you can test drive and sign all the paperwork at the MTO before the cash is given?
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Well, there is no bike. That’s the first thing to keep in mind.

And because there is no bike, it never gets to the shipping, delivery, or test ride. The buyer doesn’t get any paperwork for the MTO because there is no bike.

This is called sometimes the "virtual vehicle scam" because (you guessed it by now) the car, boat, snowmobile, or motorcycle in question does not exist.

The scam works in many different ways, approximately like this: once the buyer is in the hook, and provides all the information, he gets an email from the "shipping company". These emails are as poorly written as the emails from the seller, because this "shipping company" or this "private truck driver" or "escrow agent" is fake.

One way to steal the money it is to confirm that the bike has been shipped, and will be in Toronto in 3 days. The next day, another email comes saying that in only 2 days the bike will be delivered - this "private truck driver" may even write how jealous he is, such a shiny bike in mint condition, just in time for the riding season, for so little money... yippee!!!!

And then, when the buyer is all excited about the super-cheap bike that’s coming in the morning, the private truck driver emails again saying that he is stuck in Timmins Ontario with a broken transaxle with no access to money, and is asking for $100 via Western Union, so he can get on the road again and deliver the bike. He’ll repay the $100 as soon as he drives out of the boonies and gets to an ATM. And there are people that send the money, ‘cause they can only think about the great deal that they just scored.

And that is the second thing to keep in mind --- they are not always trying to steal $3,200 from you (the advertised price). Their goal is steal a small amount of money, from many people at the same time. Only $100 from 10 victims is enough to keep them going for the week.

Another way to steal the money may be using a fake website. In the first email, the private truck driver says that the bike will be shipped by end of day, if the money is put into escrow with company XYZ (that is a fake company, with a fake website, or it may be a fake website that looks like PayPal). Sometimes they ask only for a deposit.

When the buyer says that he understood different from the seller, the lies continue until the scammer gets the deposit, or a credit card number, with expiry date and CVV, just to demonstrate that the buyer is "serious" and has "good will", or to "verify that the buyer has the funds necessary to pay for the bike". There are many ways to do this.




Lord-Humongous said:
The way the scam works is that he gets a dialogue going withyou so that you think he’s got the bike with a shipper. Once you trust him a little, he’ll come back to you with some kind of problem with the trucking company and wants you to pay half of some BS ‘fee’. You eventually agree because you’re getting a bike at a steal of a price and wire $250 or something to a ‘trucking company’. There’s no bike, there’s no shipping company and you’re out $250.
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Thank you, you got it...
 
If anyone is dumb enough to fall for this then they deserve it.

Please post a link to the ad, ive got some free time on my hands :)
 
only someone that's esl would say this " over there for many long years".
 
MarcosSantiago said:
Well, there is no bike. That’s the first thing to keep in mind.

And because there is no bike, it never gets to the shipping, delivery, or test ride. The buyer doesn’t get any paperwork for the MTO because there is no bike.

This is called sometimes the "virtual vehicle scam" because (you guessed it by now) the car, boat, snowmobile, or motorcycle in question does not exist.

The scam works in many different ways, approximately like this: once the buyer is in the hook, and provides all the information, he gets an email from the "shipping company". These emails are as poorly written as the emails from the seller, because this "shipping company" or this "private truck driver" or "escrow agent" is fake.

One way to steal the money it is to confirm that the bike has been shipped, and will be in Toronto in 3 days. The next day, another email comes saying that in only 2 days the bike will be delivered - this "private truck driver" may even write how jealous he is, such a shiny bike in mint condition, just in time for the riding season, for so little money... yippee!!!!

And then, when the buyer is all excited about the super-cheap bike that’s coming in the morning, the private truck driver emails again saying that he is stuck in Timmins Ontario with a broken transaxle with no access to money, and is asking for $100 via Western Union, so he can get on the road again and deliver the bike. He’ll repay the $100 as soon as he drives out of the boonies and gets to an ATM. And there are people that send the money, ‘cause they can only think about the great deal that they just scored.

And that is the second thing to keep in mind --- they are not always trying to steal $3,200 from you (the advertised price). Their goal is steal a small amount of money, from many people at the same time. Only $100 from 10 victims is enough to keep them going for the week.

Another way to steal the money may be using a fake website. In the first email, the private truck driver says that the bike will be shipped by end of day, if the money is put into escrow with company XYZ (that is a fake company, with a fake website, or it may be a fake website that looks like PayPal). Sometimes they ask only for a deposit.

When the buyer says that he understood different from the seller, the lies continue until the scammer gets the deposit, or a credit card number, with expiry date and CVV, just to demonstrate that the buyer is "serious" and has "good will", or to "verify that the buyer has the funds necessary to pay for the bike". There are many ways to do this.
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You seem well versed, you got taken a few times already have you?
 
I gotta a similar reply

Hi,

*Thank you for contacting me about my 2002 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R,**that I have for sale. This bike is in great shape. I'm the original owner. It has no damage, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident. Never raced! I have a clear title, free of any liens or loans on it, under my name. The sale price is $2,000. It comes with 2 helmets. Everything is included in the sale price.

*

My husband died 1 month ago (he had a heart attack) and it brings me bad memories. That’s why I want to sell it ASAP. My daughter and I decided to sell the house and moved to my brother in WA, trying to start a new life. I want to use eBay services for the safety of both of us so if you're interested in purchasing this car just email me with your full name, address including the zip code and phone number, so I can notify eBay that you are selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.

*



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MarcosSantiago said:
All kind of crazy things happen to me.
All the time.
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I'm out to prove all you guys wrong. I sent all my money and paperwork to these nice sellers offering these great deals.

Any day now, and they promise its on the way....... I am expecting a liter bike, a boat, and a 2 year old Infiniti G35.

Can't wait! #excited
 
Go to auto trader and look for any BMW or Mercedes less then 5 years old at a "really good" price and you'll likely get an almost word for word response. Another popular one is the "I'm in the Armed Forces, I've been deployed, the bike/car is locked away at CFB whatever, I'll ship it to you and you can pay me when it gets there" Report as a scam to whichever site you're using and move on.
 
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No one calls the R1 YZF-R when they're selling except for noob Nigerians and no one moves to nunavut for nothing.
 
The language sounds like many people online these days, but really, who would truck over a bike to you, let you test ride it, then decide if you want to pay for it? And if you don't, he trucks it away, no cost to you. If only all used bike sales were this way. Without a doubt a scam.
 
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