a functionality could be added to turn it on or off with a button.
HUD (Heads Up Display) on your visor
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a functionality could be added to turn it on or off with a button.
A lap timer is about all I would want. Have it talk to a gps which has programmed with the track info and you're mostly there. I believe there are phone apps which try to do this already but I doubt their accuracy, you need a good accelerometer based ILS to smooth out the data.
I'd want lap time for a few seconds after a lap with difference vs last and best laps, sector times with differences, max speed (last 10 seconds), and average sector speed.
I suppose it would be much easier and cheaper to get the same information in audio format but that has problems too.
I'd want lap time for a few seconds after a lap with difference vs last and best laps, sector times with differences, max speed (last 10 seconds), and average sector speed.
I suppose it would be much easier and cheaper to get the same information in audio format but that has problems too.
If you're gonna be throwing down the cash for this HUD system, the lap timer might as well be based on track beacons. The GPS-based lap timers are quick and dirty solutions.
conundrum
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Something like Iron Man's suit or the visibility mode in Halo ODST would be awesome (eg. speed, tach, gps, outlining of objects to increase contrast, esp if it could detect possible road hazards, etc).
Figure most of that is still 10 years out....or 50. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFnytRXsaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzR5DbSnx78
Figure most of that is still 10 years out....or 50. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFnytRXsaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzR5DbSnx78
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PFFT IS ALREADY OUT
look at the last mission impossible... tom cruise tech is always close to being released, just like his window/touchscreens in minority report.
like DUH!
OpenGambit
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All i could think of is..
"over 9000"?
"over 9000"?
I was going to try to design an overlay for a car's windshield with this idea and it would have also done things like slightly dim the headlights of cars that have their highbeams on and other useful things like that.
Unfortunately a flexible, transparent, LCD display would've cost several thousand dollars which was more than I could invest in the idea. Plus I'm not that great so it probably wouldn't have ever worked worth a damn to even be cool, never mind impressive. Wanted to put some of that image processing learning from college to use, though.
Unfortunately a flexible, transparent, LCD display would've cost several thousand dollars which was more than I could invest in the idea. Plus I'm not that great so it probably wouldn't have ever worked worth a damn to even be cool, never mind impressive. Wanted to put some of that image processing learning from college to use, though.
well samsung already has the 'window touchscreen' concept since at least last year. so applying this to a car doesnt seem like black magic
True, which is why it would need more data to clean it up, once we have that we can log it and analyze it later as a bonus.
Who is going to let me put extra beacons around the track to break it into sectors? Will different organizers let me put them in the same places week after week?
Btw, if you're planning on using projection technology it might be worthwhile looking into projection films such as those made by 3M or this one: http://www.ssidisplays.com/rear-projection-film/intrigue
You can order free samples from 3M that come in approx A4 sized sheets (I recently received some) which might be enough for your prototype or proof of concept model.
This doesn't really address the focus issue but it might be a place to start experimenting with making the display readable in daylight. My plan is to incorporate this concept into my car's windshield.
I'd have to agree this idea probably isn't for everybody just yet.
You can order free samples from 3M that come in approx A4 sized sheets (I recently received some) which might be enough for your prototype or proof of concept model.
This doesn't really address the focus issue but it might be a place to start experimenting with making the display readable in daylight. My plan is to incorporate this concept into my car's windshield.
I'd have to agree this idea probably isn't for everybody just yet.
An on screen display for my visor would be MUCH desired. Just ability to read diagnostics and anything else, in my opinion, is great. I've ridden in conditions where seeing out of my visor has been incredibly difficult and dangerous, and not intentionally. On a good day, a clean visor, and the ability to control what I see and when I see it, it would be awesome. To know what gear I'm in, fuel remaining, rpm, speed, time, temp, or anything else with the push of a button would be cool. Someone mentioned something like indicators for blind spots, which is an incredibly practical application. Even coupled with sensors to indicate closing speed of the vehicle in front and behind would be cool.
You could even get really heavy with the stats. Measure road conditions, tire wear/age, speed, lean angle, grip, along with some predetermined stats about the bikes geometry and handling characteristics, and process that information to gauge stability in a corner or in crappy weather, and have it provide feedback on available traction and, effectively, the margin of error available before losing the bike.
Now i just want that information, HUD or not
You could even get really heavy with the stats. Measure road conditions, tire wear/age, speed, lean angle, grip, along with some predetermined stats about the bikes geometry and handling characteristics, and process that information to gauge stability in a corner or in crappy weather, and have it provide feedback on available traction and, effectively, the margin of error available before losing the bike.
Now i just want that information, HUD or not
Only for the older guys that don't want to be Iron Man.
I need to look into projection as it may solve the focus issue. One thing that video game huds don't have is the loss of focus when looking at the hud.
Altimategear chiming in here. A hud in your visor will be difficult to do because you cannot focus on it in front of you and you cannot fix direct light on it because a rider is always moving around. Now, if you create a reflective surface that wraps around the top of you head and you design an opening that lets you see out the back and you insert or position your led to it, you can see and read it in your periferal vision with only minor adjustment to the font size. Reevu helmets, you know the helmet that you can see behind with is built with this reflective surface. You can experiment by attaching your android to the back of the helmet and read text. I assume within 2 years either Reevu's engineers or an aftermarket company will create an add on to this helmet that will provide the info to your liking and still maintain the initial idea of seeing behind you and as we say here "saving lives". Maybe it could be designed and created right here in the GTA. Its an opportunity waiting!
That's actually an interesting idea I hadn't considered and does mitigate the distraction issue. I'd still prefer a hud right on the face shield but your idea is very pragmatic.
If it was just a concept I doubt my chances of getting access to the tech are pretty slim. Also, this was about 5 years ago that I was considering the idea.
dasiffy
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focus the info to infinity and it'll be fine.
a projection on the visor has been done. ten years ago. never took off. can't find the link. It had a device under the seat, and rf transmitter to the helmet mounted projector. It showed speed only.
if you use LCD you could replace the visor. Just wouldn't be able to have a backlight. (like a calculator)
This vid makes use of the windscreen... (music is painfull to listen too but this is what your going for i think)
>tablet HUD<
To those who feel it would be too much.... you'll get used to it and it will be come part of the background.
a projection on the visor has been done. ten years ago. never took off. can't find the link. It had a device under the seat, and rf transmitter to the helmet mounted projector. It showed speed only.
if you use LCD you could replace the visor. Just wouldn't be able to have a backlight. (like a calculator)
This vid makes use of the windscreen... (music is painfull to listen too but this is what your going for i think)
>tablet HUD<
To those who feel it would be too much.... you'll get used to it and it will be come part of the background.
If we're making a wish list here, a built-in helmet camera with a decent battery that takes stills on demand ... like, push a button on the helmet, or gesture control (nod head) or blink three times, or something.
I hate ****ing with my GoPro or P&S while riding. Something easy and built in to the helmet. Please and thank you.
I hate ****ing with my GoPro or P&S while riding. Something easy and built in to the helmet. Please and thank you.
fyrebug
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I tried the recon android goggle ones at MEC. eveyr inch of my nerdy side wants one.. but in reality upon trying them it was clear it's a bad idea. it takes less effort to look at the dash then the HUD.
the problem is the HUD is very close to your eye so when you look down there's an adjustment you have to make to your depth percetion. it takes an extra second to focus. I have perfect vision so lets get that question out of the way. I found them annoying and I was sad after trying them. I think a small pico projector on the visor with real time augmented reality is the only way to go, offcourse doing THAT and then getting a blue screen of death on the connected computer could mean a real death. it's just another driving distraction.
the problem is the HUD is very close to your eye so when you look down there's an adjustment you have to make to your depth percetion. it takes an extra second to focus. I have perfect vision so lets get that question out of the way. I found them annoying and I was sad after trying them. I think a small pico projector on the visor with real time augmented reality is the only way to go, offcourse doing THAT and then getting a blue screen of death on the connected computer could mean a real death. it's just another driving distraction.
lol BSOD while driving/boarding would mean a pretty big crash!
I don't think the depth issue is a problem in cars because the windshield is further away from your eyes than the dash, but in a helmet application I completely agree. The upside to this phenomenon is that it reduces the distraction when all you want to do is focus on what's ahead.
I mentioned it earlier but reflecting an image off the visor is the only practical method (within reach of the avg person) to get the image to appear as if it's floating in front of you vs right on the glass. Hard to accomplish in the space of a helmet but not impossible. Does anyone know how the google glasses display is supposed to work?
[edit]nvmnd, looked it up and it's just a display you have to shift focus to look at, similar to the Recon system[/edit]
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