silverbullet132
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Gotta love my +2, has bluetooth with an app that lets you live view the cam for aiming. Quite useful.
Helmet Cams
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Gotta love my +2, has bluetooth with an app that lets you live view the cam for aiming. Quite useful.
That's one of the things I hate about the law. Person A can interpret it one way, person B can interpret it another. He who buys the most expensive suit wins. I'd prefer if laws were specific and explicit so that we must obey can read it and know exactly what's legal and what is not.
The adhesives used in almost all mounts is a foam based double sided tape. It has no structural strength. Even a light impact will knock the camera off.
On a different topic where are people getting this 5mm limit for things sticking out from the helmet? That's a totally made up number because it doesn't appear in the regs anywhere.
Oh and what about visors/beaks on helmets. This whole thing is a cluster****.
Roomie
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Now you just talkin crazy! Respectful and courteous in a society of entitled self important morons? Ain't nobody got time fo dat!
That's why you check the mount angle while wearing the helmet, remove it and affix the camera, and then put it back on and rotate the end cap (lens) until the dots are level in your vision.
Though, as I said, I do prefer mounting on the bike.
The law is always interpreted. Case law sets precedent, which then informs future judgments. That means people who come later interpret the law in the same way. It's not perfect, but it's the best system that anyone has managed to come up with.
Oddly enough the way that the item is secured to the helmet is relatively immaterial as I know of at least one case in which a rider was found guilty of wearing an uncertified helmet, simply because he had a mohawk suction cupped to it. For the record 3M VHB double sided tape, which is the most common sort used on quality cameras, is incredibly tough to shear off when affixed to a clean, smooth surface.
Funny thing is that I use my camera to capture the actions of said 'self important morons'
lol I am a Canadian Citizen that plans not to step foot in that country until democracy is reinstated, their police is none of my concern, I am more worried about OPP than Venezuelan police
I just find people these days need to remember their rights finish when someone else's start.
And forgetting about all the legalities and the amount of crap someone can get by someone else recording them, what about being decent and courteous and a respectful person? and stop being an ******* towards everyone just because you want to show you videos on youtube and show how cool you are!
If you weren't riding like an ******* you would have no complaints about your license plate being posted. Just a thought.... lol
If you're in public, I can record you. I probably couldn't keep up with you to catch your plate anyway.
I just meant what he said about people doing it on group rides etc. Using one as you do is fine and I hope it helps nail some idiot one day
Well it certainly took away one driver's ability to argue he was at fault.
MarcosSantiago
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Mmmh, ok.... so.... what GoPro model should I buy?
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Yah yah. What I'm saying is, I'd need to use the laser while riding, 'cause I tend to lean my head either way, even at a full stop, for no apparent reason. Makes for some annoying footage to watch.
Anyhoo. Going to experiment on the bike, but I'm worried it'll shake too much.
Wait, is that something that people actually do? Fire up the laser beam in public?
I am sure everyone in every single GTAM ride never goes over the speed limit!If you weren't riding like an ******* you would have no complaints about your license plate being posted. Just a thought.... lol
I have followed Rob Maclennan on a ride while going just "a little" above speed limits back in the day, I can tell you I would have never recorded him without first asking.
I got nothing against dashboard cameras, I think in today's date it is a smart thing to have, my specific point is about group rides.
Other thing to consider, what if someone crashes and gets hurt badly, now the police can use the video to identify all the people on said ride, now you get called in to testify by the insurance company and you have to do it under oath, would you lie? would you tell the truth and incriminate the person that got hurt? all because of what? having a pretty video to show off on facebook?
People love to throw blanket meaningless statements like "you are in public so you should be ok with being recorded" without first thinking in all the consequences.
Anyways, mute point for me.
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Fortunately the signs in the corners are yellow and, therefore, just suggestions
No one was really recording anyone, back then, except maybe at The Gap. Must have been one hell of a long time ago as I only rarely led rides, usually preferring to ride sweep, and haven't been on a group ride that I can remember in maybe 8 years.
yep 2008, you and I end up riding on our own in a road close to your house, the group catched up at the end, wow that was long freaking time agoFortunately the signs in the corners are yellow and, therefore, just suggestions
No one was really recording anyone, back then, except maybe at The Gap. Must have been one hell of a long time ago as I only rarely led rides, usually preferring to ride sweep, and haven't been on a group ride that I can remember in maybe 8 years.
JCHC91
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Came across this through an eBay search.
Someone said techmoan is good for reviews for dash cams so I tried a search and actually found one.
http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2013/6/9/sj1000-at-lasta-good-cheap-action-camera.html
$80 + free shipping, handlebar, adhesive, helmet etc mounts. Lithium ion battery and I assume you can hardwire a cable. It has a loop feature and multiple colours.
Ordered a red one today.. Let you guys know how it is when I get it.
But the article and the user comments have links to user-made videos and I was quite impressed by its performance for $80.
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Someone said techmoan is good for reviews for dash cams so I tried a search and actually found one.
http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2013/6/9/sj1000-at-lasta-good-cheap-action-camera.html
$80 + free shipping, handlebar, adhesive, helmet etc mounts. Lithium ion battery and I assume you can hardwire a cable. It has a loop feature and multiple colours.
Ordered a red one today.. Let you guys know how it is when I get it.
But the article and the user comments have links to user-made videos and I was quite impressed by its performance for $80.
Sent from my SGH-T989D using Tapatalk
Ha! You said smooth!
Yes, it sticks very well. But there are two adhesive sides to it and foam in the middle. The foam does shear when impacted. My Shoei has the evidence. I went down at the track with a helmet cam that hit the ground first and just popped off. I was left with a gob of adhesive on my helmet and on the mount. So the tape separate down through the foamy part.Don't worry about bike vibration, use a ram mount and it is VERY stable. On my bike it is perfectly still it is my windshield in front vibrating which was annoying...lol
I guess the main reason I have one is for exactly that. A bad crash.. what if someone pulls in front of me, said I was speeding, I wasn't... it's their fault.. I have it on camera. That's the best insurance you can get in my opinion.
Rye: True. This American rider on another forum (female) that I am on rides with a camera. She's said how drivers have tried to kill her before by merging into her lane while looking directly at her and when she pointed at her camera on her helmet they looked shocked and backed off. Then she eventually did have a bad accident one day and went flying and broke lots of bones and is told she is lucky she is alive. The camera was retrieved by the police who were able to use the footage to determine that the driver was unquestionably at fault and the police were happy for the footage because a he said-she said traffic scene reconstruction is no fun for anyone. We've not seen the footage yet because it is still in the court system and they don't want to jeopardize anything by letting it out before court.
I told her in Ontario we can't ride with a helmet cam. She said she wouldn't ride in Ontario then. Values being able to point the lens directly at what she is looking at rather than bike mounted.
I think what will need to happen is for someone to go to court and fight the ticket. Create jurisprudence that its bad if you have a suction cup Mohawk but good if it is for safety reasons like this woman.
I told her in Ontario we can't ride with a helmet cam. She said she wouldn't ride in Ontario then. Values being able to point the lens directly at what she is looking at rather than bike mounted.
I think what will need to happen is for someone to go to court and fight the ticket. Create jurisprudence that its bad if you have a suction cup Mohawk but good if it is for safety reasons like this woman.
(And anyone fighting this ticket from here while wearing a camera and not otherwise in violation of any other law like speeding, please do NOT lose and create more case law. Talk to us first on the forum before throwing in the towel. If we all contribute for a top notch safety liability lawyer then it can work well for everyone.)
