Fast Bikes 2012 (UK Magazine, PDF) Sportbike of the year edition!
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I'm surprised the ZX-10 didn't rate higher. My friend has the 2012 as a track bike and it puts everything to shame in handling and on the dyno, except the S1000RR!
-Jamie M.
Lol. Sure!!
If he's not racing in CSBK with black numbers it doesn't matter.
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Shaman
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No surprise to me what the winner was. The BMW had 5mph on it down some of the straights and still got its butt kicked. If you ever ride one, you'll know why... handles like a 250 GP bike (or so they tell me).
Dyno's don't mean that much. Riders sure do, though, as caboose so elequently points out.
Dyno's don't mean that much. Riders sure do, though, as caboose so elequently points out.
Shaman
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Read more of it... interesting that they are now picking up on some of the things I didn't like about the zx-10r, whereas it was supposedly a conquering bike last year... sort of like the R1 was in 2010 and now they realize how flawed a bike it is (my friendly literally has burned himself and his girlfriend on the stupid-hot exhaust system). The zx-10r tank feels huge and the thing sits down in the rear almost like a cruiser. Still cool, but... it has flaws. I'm sure you could adapt...
Interestingly, they overlooked the Panigale's stupid-hot exhaust in this review... I wonder how they feel about their choice of placement now that it's got six recalls in the last month.
Interestingly, they overlooked the Panigale's stupid-hot exhaust in this review... I wonder how they feel about their choice of placement now that it's got six recalls in the last month.
Removing the cat and wrapping the mid pipe helped tons with the heat. I'm probably going to do the little pipes that go from the Y pipe to the mufflers too. With the race baffles in the mufflers they don't get hot at all now.
If heat is such a problem, why don't they wrap it from the factory? Couldn't they use a double walled pipe too?
Also, the shop where I bought the wrap said not to wrap the headers, where they come out of the engine, because "you can burn the titanium exhaust pipe"??
-Jamie M.
At a guess because it looks like crap when it satrts to fray.
And good luck finding anyone who wants to pay to have double wall pipe fabricated and fitted to a big box Jap i4.
If there wern't emission and noise considerations then there wouldn't be a heat problem. Blame the tree huggers.
Every review I read about these bikes has them in completely different orders. MotoUSA had the 1199 pretty close to the back, saying it was pretty hard to ride quickly. The Honda was right up front, and the Aprilia was mid-packish.
I wish more bikes had the V4 engine setup from the RSV4. That's the only thing I like about that bike (I didn't find it nice to sit on). The ZX-10R always seems to lose points based on the fact it's less desirable than some of the other bikes. I found it nice to sit on, and I really like the look of it.
I wish more bikes had the V4 engine setup from the RSV4. That's the only thing I like about that bike (I didn't find it nice to sit on). The ZX-10R always seems to lose points based on the fact it's less desirable than some of the other bikes. I found it nice to sit on, and I really like the look of it.
Shaman
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There's no comparison. Since my buddy got his 2011, I've been calling it the Big Red BBQ and now he's calling it that, too. Another friend with one actually acknowledged that he can't stand to ride his downtown (which he used to do a lot of) because of the heat - and this guy is a Yamaha fanboy like you cannot believe... his family has owned a Yamaha dealership for 40 years and he raced black-number Pro on a Yamaha team back in the 80s (RD 350s, 400s and later on, the FZRs). For him to admit that a Yamaha has a flaw... that's really something... he tried to hide that his clutch and cam chain was rattling so bad that it needed to be fixed... BEFORE Yamaha started doing it on warranty because of known flaws in the 2010... hardly anyone knows about it because he just doesn't say bad things about Yamaha products...
Wow, thanks for the info! I was thinking about upgrading to the 09+ cause the crossplane sounds so sexy, and has multiple maps (three maps on 09-11, a mind blowing 21 maps on 2012! lol)
Looks like I'll hold off.
-Jamie M.
A ***** for flashing, but pretty fun to set them all up! I set up for a guy "girlfriend" mode for when he lends it to his girlfriend! Limits her to 60% throttle and 7000rpm! Then he has "fuel economy" mode, then "all out crazyness" mode (fully unrestricted, top speed and the works)
The 21 maps are those three modes, plus individual for each gear (i.e. you can limit the throttle and rpm in 1st and 2nd but relax them in 3rd and up), including neutral (for limiting how much you can rev it with the clutch in or in N).-Jamie M.
U are something else.
