Failed Ducati theft

Hmmm robbing a dealership with hammers doesn't really sound like a good idea considering they probably have even more heavy duty tools/equipment inside.

Haven't watched the video yet cause youtube seems to be blocked at school but how does one get put in a headlock if they're all wielding hammers?
 
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kiwi said:
this was discussed the other day - re: Chavs.

btw - you couldnt headlock or "forcibly confine" the robbers in Ontario, the cops would charge you. They want you to call 911 instead. re: The Asian guy who caught and held the shoplifter.

re: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2010/10/03/david-chen-trial635.html

The David Chen case..

Bunch of pussys in this country/province
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While I agree with you that our laws protect the criminals more than it should and limit it's citizens in how they can respond. The David Chen case was based on the fact that he acted on video surveillance from an hour prior to the citizen's arrest he committed. At the time the law stated you had to catch him in the act. I believe they have since then amended the criminal code.

"Under current law, someone - a small-business owner like Chen, for example - can arrest a person for, say, theft, only if the culprit is caught in the act. Under the new rules, an arrest can be made “within a reasonable amount of time” after the offence has been committed on or in relation to one’s property.
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"citizen’s arrest, often a risky endeavour, can only be made if it can’t be done by police at that time, and it must not involve unreasonable force"
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BTW I totally agree with what David Chen and hopefully Canada really looks harder at it's "Justice System".
 
love when the guy in white pushes the scooter over and retard picks it back up.. guy in the white comes back over and pushes him back over. lol so unnecessarily awesome
 
My buddy just had his new to him 1098 stolen yesterday from his Etobicoke condo parking, he's ******.
 
PLau said:
Haven't watched the video yet cause youtube seems to be blocked at school but how does one get put in a headlock if they're all wielding hammers?
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That's how imbecile they were. And it's just hilarious how one of them got knocked off the scooter TWICE, and almost a third time, employee couldn't get to him soon enough.
 
Dino Z said:
condo parking
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When will they learn???

I think next spring I'm going to set up baitbikes.ca ... I got some crazy plans :)

-Jamie M.
 
Legend said:
While I agree with you that our laws protect the criminals more than it should and limit it's citizens in how they can respond. The David Chen case was based on the fact that he acted on video surveillance from an hour prior to the citizen's arrest he committed. At the time the law stated you had to catch him in the act. I believe they have since then amended the criminal code.





BTW I totally agree with what David Chen and hopefully Canada really looks harder at it's "Justice System".
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The law hasn't changed. It has always been 'find committing'. It says that a citizen may arrest a person they 'find committing' an indictable (criminal) offence. They may also assist in the arrest of someone they believe, on reasonable grounds, has committed a criminal offence AND is escaping fresh pursuit:

Criminal Code of Canada: 494. Arrest without warrant by any person


494. (1) Any one may arrest without warrant
(a) a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or
(b) a person who, on reasonable grounds, he believes
(i) has committed a criminal offence, and
(ii) is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person.
Arrest by owner, etc., of property
(2) Any one who is
(a) the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or
(b) a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property,
may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.
Delivery to peace officer
(3) Any one other than a peace officer who arrests a person without warrant shall forthwith deliver the person to a peace officer.

A cop, however, can arrest on reasonable and probably grounds that a criminal offence has been committed or will be committed and don't have to have witnessed it.

495. Arrest without warrant by peace officer

495. (1) A peace officer may arrest without warrant
(a) a person who has committed an indictable offence or who, on reasonable grounds, he believes has committed or is about to commit an indictable offence;
(b) a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence; or
(c) a person in respect of whom he has reasonable grounds to believe that a warrant of arrest or committal, in any form set out in Part XXVIII in relation thereto, is in force within the territorial jurisdiction in which the person is found.
Limitation
(2) A peace officer shall not arrest a person without warrant for
(a) an indictable offence mentioned in section 553,
(b) an offence for which the person may be prosecuted by indictment or for which he is punishable on summary conviction, or
(c) an offence punishable on summary conviction,
in any case where
(d) he believes on reasonable grounds that the public interest, having regard to all the circumstances including the need to
(i) establish the identity of the person,
(ii) secure or preserve evidence of or relating to the offence, or
(iii) prevent the continuation or repetition of the offence or the commission of another offence,
may be satisfied without so arresting the person, and
(e) he has no reasonable grounds to believe that, if he does not so arrest the person, the person will fail to attend court in order to be dealt with according to law.
Consequences of arrest without warrant
(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a peace officer acting under subsection (1) is deemed to be acting lawfully and in the execution of his duty for the purposes of
(a) any proceedings under this or any other Act of Parliament; and
(b) any other proceedings, unless in any such proceedings it is alleged and established by the person making the allegation that the peace officer did not comply with the requirements of subsection (2).















 
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I guess they were going to push them down the road - really fast. Or the bikes had keys in, so drive them off?

Wait a minute wait a minute. What about the scooters they leave behind?

Oh never mind.
 
johnp said:
I guess they were going to push them down the road - really fast. Or the bikes had keys in, so drive them off?

Wait a minute wait a minute. What about the scooters they leave behind?

Oh never mind.
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The scooters were stolen as well.

Never seen showroom bikes with fuel or a battery in them, much less keys??

-Jamie M.
 
Apparently they use the clutch to roll stolen bikes between their stolen scooters
 
and so NOT gangsta.

Ball peen hammers?
a Hi-Viz vest?

btw the Kray twins used ball peen hammers as weapon of choice, complete with belt holsters. Guns were for sissies.
 
that whole incident is just one big joke from all sides...seriously, if you are going to rob the place of bikes, just put 5 mins of thought into it and problem solved...just dumbassery all around...if it succeeded i would have been speechless...and for the guys that run the store, you can protect your merchandise better than that and avoid the whole situation...grrr...dumbasses on both sides...
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