E bikes rampaging Toronto streets

First impression:

Wow, that's crazy, let's get these things off the road. Won't someone think of the children?!

Second impression:

The fact that we have a 'ebikes rampaging toronto streets thread', but it took 7 years and 300+ replies before the thread saw any actual "rampaging", and that the rampaging wasn't even in Toronto, and that the rampaging that wasn't even in Toronto wasn't even on an ebike, kind of makes the point that ebike rampaging in Toronto really isn't a problem.

And I say this as a Toronto resident who drives for a good portion of my income...
Even though more crazy and everywhere in East downtown....I found we all have worked out a way of accommodating each other...
They ride in the bike lanes and sidewalks and stay out of my way.
They ride across crosswalk/intersections ...keeping out of my turning intersection.
I no longer make deliveries so do not need to park on street in bike lanes , which were previously driving/parking lanes to get people their essential deliveries or picking them up and drop off.
Many do not have lights in the dark...but usually know to swerve out of my way.

Different demograph than the original DUI type rough and ready Rampagers...the type that stole my Helmet and winter gloves off my bike and patrol the neighborhoods looking for opportunity to steal
 
Because there's no money in fining near-welfare wage people.

Because if you fine them you have to fine bicycle riders.

Because they don't pop wheelies at 60mph on the highway.

Yeah well they spend all night popping wheelies up and down my street, beneath the Gardiner. Idiot pains in the ass.
 
Natural selection, they are required to where as little as a minimal protection bicycle helmet. When they crash at 50kms they won't be riding anymore.

And many don’t even bother wearing a helmet.

This city is overrun with an epidemic of cockroaches.
 
DUI Ducati's.... Lol.

Haha.

So true - or used to be…

Before COVID and the rise of ghost kitchens - which is what originally started this plague of insects that some people label as popularity - the only people riding them were those who either couldn’t afford something better and needed to get around, or people who lost their licenses/were on facility.

True story - before COVID one of the managers at work (who I knew of, but didn’t know well) kept referring to his “motorcycle,” and would drop that any chance he got, as in’ “Oh it was so hot today riding my motorcycle,” “I hope it doesn’t rain I brought my motorcycle.”

So one day I asked what *motorcycle* he rode?

He said “emmo.”

I said, “who makes that? I haven’t heard of that model.

He said again, “emmo.”

Eventually with the back and forth he told me it was electric. So I said, “that’s not a motorcycle, it doesn’t even qualify as a scooter.”

He didn’t like me much after that, haha. Turned out he was an alcoholic. Nothing says DUI quite like pulling up at your professional job in a suit and tie, on a scooter so small you look like a clown in a circus show…🤓
 
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If you can't beat them, join them. At first i ordered because i was tired of waiting for the bus (last mile from my house to go station)

And now well... seems that with the gas prices going the way they are it might be a nice alternative to get around.

This is definitely quite the learning experience though

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If you can't beat them, join them. At first i ordered because i was tired of waiting for the bus (last mile from my house to go station)

And now well... seems that with the gas prices going the way they are it might be a nice alternative to get around.

This is definitely quite the learning experience though

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What are the legal implications? I assume they could hit you with unlicensed, uninsured motorcycle if a cop was having a bad day? Lots of these machines (one-wheel, e-scooter, etc) seem like they could be a good part of efficient mobility but laws are unfriendly towards them. To be fair, many of these machines are insane and should not be used near unsuspecting public. Nobody expects "pedestrians" to be silently moving at 50+ kph.
 
What are the legal implications? I assume they could hit you with unlicensed, uninsured motorcycle if a cop was having a bad day? Lots of these machines (one-wheel, e-scooter, etc) seem like they could be a good part of efficient mobility but laws are unfriendly towards them. To be fair, many of these machines are insane and should not be used near unsuspecting public. Nobody expects "pedestrians" to be silently moving at 50+ kph.
Too many could be's and critical mass has too many horses already out of the barn. :(
 
What are the legal implications? I assume they could hit you with unlicensed, uninsured motorcycle if a cop was having a bad day? Lots of these machines (one-wheel, e-scooter, etc) seem like they could be a good part of efficient mobility but laws are unfriendly towards them. To be fair, many of these machines are insane and should not be used near unsuspecting public. Nobody expects "pedestrians" to be silently moving at 50+ kph.
It's all in the bylaws of the city you're in. So it varies.

As an example Mississauga has a lot of restrictions regarding ebikes and escooters but then they also had the lime/bird pilot running for 2 seasons already?

A lot of the people I know who use Euc are on multi-use paths or even on "off road" paths. Also funnily enough a lot of them are just guys in their mid forties 😂.

But just like everything else there are people who use them more... Irresponsibly.
 
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