Chernobyl

So how'd she get the photo's? Just taken them from random places in Eastern Europe and waited till there were no people in the frame(s)?

You should post a link to back up your claim.

It's so well known that I felt I didn't have to. Takes a 10 second search to prove.
 
Been planning to do one of these tours for a while now since I'm in nuclear industry myself.
Was in Romania this summer at Cernavoda nuke plant for 3 week so my team and I were looking into driving up there.
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How would an extra dose of radiation affect your lifetime limit? I had to go into Pickering NGS once and got the registered for life red tape special.
 
How would an extra dose of radiation affect your lifetime limit? I had to go into Pickering NGS once and got the registered for life red tape special.

It won't affect you unless you inhaled a good quantity some nice beta/gamma particles. Levels of radiation are monitored very seriously at every nuclear plant. You should have had a temporary tag with you if you were to go inside the NGS. Even if you did get some "higher than normal life" levels, it probably won't affect you at all. The level of radiation has to be 100s times higher than 'normal' to affect you.
 
Here is the chart.

http://xkcd.com/radiation/


Some cities are very high naturally

The city with the highest radiation levels in the world is Chennai in India. There, people are exposed to 3.42 microsieverts of radiation per hour on average. This doesn’t mean much until we compare it with a city like Hong Kong, where people are exposed to about 0.14 microsieverts per hour. In New York, the reading is an average 0.095 microsieverts per hour. So, we can see how high Chennai’s readings are compared to those other cities.

The things that contribute to “background” radiation are mostly industrial programs--manmade contributors like mining, milling, processing of ores, and burning fossil fuels. We can also attribute some levels of radiation to radon, which is present in all soil.

Read more: http://greenanswers.com/q/182182/po...s-have-highest-radiation-levels#ixzz2AkXhekgj

The city of Ramsar, Iran has been reported to have the highest natural radiation levels of any city in modern times. At 10.2 microsieverts, according to the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effect of Atomic Radiation report in 2000, the city attributes high radiation levels due to the concentration of Radium 226 released from 9 hot springs that are used for recreational purposes.

Read more: http://greenanswers.com/q/182182/po...s-have-highest-radiation-levels#ixzz2AkXpyKxL

It is observed that some radiation exposure is actually beneficial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

and we evolved and live in a sea of it.

Neutrinos are omnipresent in nature such that in just one second, tens of billions of them "pass through every square centimetre of our bodies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino_detector

You'd be shocked by how much is admitted by a coal plant ( far more than any nuclear plant ).
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste

People get their shorts in a knot about silly things. :rolleyes:
 
Got a house above granite? Might want to also check radon levels in your basement.

There are plenty of things to get your shorts in a knot about granted, many of them can be ignored. I'd rather not take a chance when it comes to radiation exposure and I'm not talking about plane travel (check out those figures) I'm talking about scenarios where inhalation of particles might be possible.
 
If you ever been to eastern europe you will know that bribing there is still a way of life.

Government lacks funding so, areas that should be off limits are often not properly secured. And yes, there are organized tours to Chernobyl.

As for radiation, there are fairly up to date maps with pollution. Dust is indeed one of the worst things that can happen to you there. However if you stay on major roads you should be more or less ok.
 
How would an extra dose of radiation affect your lifetime limit? I had to go into Pickering NGS once and got the registered for life red tape special.
Well it really depends where you worked at the plant lol. But you'll be totally fine, you for sure had to wear TLD.
I've worked plenty inside of reactor buildings (Bruce Power, Pickering OPG, Darlingto OPG, Point LePreau, Tricastin plant in France, Cernadova plant in Romania) wearing Homer Simpson plastic suit. Have done a lot of jobs on the face of the reactor, steam generators, pre-heaters.....hours and hours at a time. The amount of dose I usually get is waaaay less than if you get a chest X-ray at your doctors. I still try not to go in unless I absolutely have to. Been doing close to 5 years.
I do electrical/electronics, so I set up systems for my team.





It won't affect you unless you inhaled a good quantity some nice beta/gamma particles. Levels of radiation are monitored very seriously at every nuclear plant. You should have had a temporary tag with you if you were to go inside the NGS. Even if you did get some "higher than normal life" levels, it probably won't affect you at all. The level of radiation has to be 100s times higher than 'normal' to affect you.

Just gonna correct you here. It's Alpha and Beta that you don't wanna inhale. Specially Alpha.
Gamma rays just goes through you like nothing.
 
People get all gnarly about nukes - meanwhile this one has been running in a suburb in Hamilton for 50+ year.
You can see the radiation glow under the heavy water. You can walk on the catwalk and look into the reactor.

Reactor07.jpg


http://mnr.mcmaster.ca/
 
People get all gnarly about nukes - meanwhile this one has been running in a suburb in Hamilton for 50+ year.
You can see the radiation glow under the heavy water. You can walk on the catwalk and look into the reactor.

Reactor07.jpg


http://mnr.mcmaster.ca/

I agree that people get way too scared of radiation of just not knowing the basics. Which is sad.

For instance (and no offense) you posted a pool type reactor. These type of reactors are not used to generate heat that goes to electricity after. This one is only 5MW I believe.
And it is not heavy water (D2O), it's just a regular water (H2O) that works as cooling core and gamma rays shield (water and lead work as a great protector). They don't often use heavy water pools. And I believe they are smaller on size and contained somehow (Haven't worked with them in person).
IF you had so much open heavy water (that consists Tritium) there would be no one alive in that university lol.

All Canadian nuclear power plants (CANDU type usually 600-950MW per unit) do use heavy water under pressurized system. That's why whenever I have to go inside of reactor building after coming out I do bio-sample for health physicists to see how much Tritium I inhaled. Usually not much cause I have air plugged in into my suit.
You can usually wash out Tritium with beer anyway.
We did have a breach of Tritium out of airlock a bunch of times and alarms would go crazy. Everyone would have to leave the certain area and do pee samples again.
 
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People get all gnarly about nukes - meanwhile this one has been running in a suburb in Hamilton for 50+ year.
You can see the radiation glow under the heavy water. You can walk on the catwalk and look into the reactor.

I like the fact that the people in Japan are getting their panties in a knot. Wanting to eliminate nuclear energy. Can u imagine the amount of air pollution that would be increased?

Nuclear disaster only happen once every what? 30yrs?
Only ones I can think about are:
Chernobyl
3 mile island

How much nuclear reactors are in the world now?
 
I like the fact that the people in Japan are getting their panties in a knot. Wanting to eliminate nuclear energy. Can u imagine the amount of air pollution that would be increased?

Nuclear disaster only happen once every what? 30yrs?
Only ones I can think about are:
Chernobyl
3 mile island

How much nuclear reactors are in the world now?

Google "Tokaimura" and you'll see why the Japanese are a little...... perturbed.
 
I like the fact that the people in Japan are getting their panties in a knot. Wanting to eliminate nuclear energy. Can u imagine the amount of air pollution that would be increased?

Nuclear disaster only happen once every what? 30yrs?
Only ones I can think about are:
Chernobyl
3 mile island

How much nuclear reactors are in the world now?

435 power plants I believe.

1. USA 101,465MW
2. France 63,130MW
3. Japan 44,215MW
4. Russia 23,643MW
 
I like the fact that the people in Japan are getting their panties in a knot. Wanting to eliminate nuclear energy. Can u imagine the amount of air pollution that would be increased?

Nuclear disaster only happen once every what? 30yrs?
Only ones I can think about are:
Chernobyl
3 mile island

How much nuclear reactors are in the world now?

Yeah, well, people only found out the effects of Chernobyl disaster many years after it happened, and not all of it - partly becuase some effects are long-term, and some things are still classified. Same with Japanese disaster. Japan is keeping a closed lid on all the news regarding this nightmare. It's amazing that all the irradiated water is being dumped into the ocean, but nobody really cares.
 
Closer to home, didn't someone do a number on Port Hope a year or two ago. To me it sounded like a "Sky is falling" rant but I don't spend a lot of time in Port Hope. Nice ride destination though, along the lakeshore then north up to Prichards for fresh pickerel and raspberry pie.
 
Yeah, well, people only found out the effects of Chernobyl disaster many years after it happened, and not all of it - partly becuase some effects are long-term, and some things are still classified. Same with Japanese disaster. Japan is keeping a closed lid on all the news regarding this nightmare. It's amazing that all the irradiated water is being dumped into the ocean, but nobody really cares.

what "nightmare" would that be....just more fear mongering and quite frankly Chernobyl was way over stated as the actual events showed.

In the meantime coals kills hundreds of thousands world wide directly every year and affects the health of millions. That's $4 billion in health costs for Ontario alone.

By the end of 2014, Ontario will be the first jurisdiction in the world to replace dirty coal-fired generation with more sustainable alternatives such as wind, solar and bioenergy -- the equivalent of taking seven million cars off the road. This is the single largest climate change initiative being undertaken in North America and will lead to savings of $4.4 billion a year in health care, environmental and financial costs.

Japan and Germany are being seriously stupid about this. If you want the science visit
http://bravenewclimate.com/integral-fast-reactor-ifr-nuclear-power/

There are far far greater risks we undertake every day - including our rides...would be nice to do in clean air :D
 
Google "Tokaimura" and you'll see why the Japanese are a little...... perturbed.

Wasn't much of a disaster I would say, more like an industrial accident. People get killed in industrial accidents every month.

I remember when they shut down a plant in Ontario they were deprived of medical isotopes. I believe it was Chalk River. Where are we gonna get our medical isotopes?
 
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