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2021 MotoGP Discussion (No Links - Contains Spoilers!)
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Robbo
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BT Sport 2 has live free practice, qualy and full race coverage for all three classes, moto E and rookies cup. They also replay the 3 main class races in full on the Monday or Tuesday.
Check the epg or motoGP website for times.
In case you’re also interested in SBK, UK Eurosport 2 has live coverage on race weekends.
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Robbo
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Freddy, here’s the tv schedule Toronto time on BT Sport 2
Friday
FP1 3:00am-5:45am
FP2 7:15am-10:00am
Saturday
FP3 3:00am-6:00am
Qualy 6:00am-10:15am
Sunday
Warmups 3:00am-4:30am
Race
Moto3 4:30am-6:30am
MotoGP 6:30am-8:15am
Moto2 8:15am-9:30am
Post-race show 9:30am-10:00am
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Friday
FP1 3:00am-5:45am
FP2 7:15am-10:00am
Saturday
FP3 3:00am-6:00am
Qualy 6:00am-10:15am
Sunday
Warmups 3:00am-4:30am
Race
Moto3 4:30am-6:30am
MotoGP 6:30am-8:15am
Moto2 8:15am-9:30am
Post-race show 9:30am-10:00am
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More rumours:
Gresini and VR46 to run Ducati next year. Not clear on spec. But realistically, I don't see them running factory spec as Pramac already has 4 factory spec bikes (Factory and Pramac teams).
Gresini riders are: Bastianini, DiGianantonio
VR46 riders are: Marini, Bezzechi
Gresini and VR46 to run Ducati next year. Not clear on spec. But realistically, I don't see them running factory spec as Pramac already has 4 factory spec bikes (Factory and Pramac teams).
Gresini riders are: Bastianini, DiGianantonio
VR46 riders are: Marini, Bezzechi
Priller
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Ugh. I do not want to see eight Ducatis on the grid, but I guess if they're willing to splash the cash, there's not much Dorna can do about it. I'll be stunned if VR46 and their stacks of blood money aren't on factory bikes. They have the cash and they have the leverage with Rossi's name, so I could see the difference between choosing Yamaha or Ducati coming down to who can offer a better package. All rumours out of the paddock are that barring a massive resurgence before the break, Rossi is done this year, so that breaks a link to Yamaha, I guess.
Interesting results this morning in practice, with all the Ducatis except Zarco struggling (though he stole a tow from Quartararo to top the sheets). Morbidelli has amazing race pace, as does Fabio. Weirdly, so did Marquez, only dropping from around third in combined times when everyone else blitzed their qualifying times at the end of FP2. I haven't looked at his averages to see if maybe he jumped in the soft tires early...
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J_F
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would be surprised to see VR46 riders on Ducati hardware
but at this point Vale is more of a brand than a racer
Yamaha, although a much better package this year, has other troubles
Mav and Frankie both openly critical of the team/bike
Frankie should, obviously, have been given the 2021 factory bike
it's wasted on Vale, he's done as a racer
and Mav should be at the pinnacle of his career
so next year? Rins gets **** canned? Mav back to Suzuki?
or HRC?
where does Frankie go? #2 factory bike?
FQ is looking fantastic
fast as always, and looks like he has it together mentally
93 who?
shout out to the RS-GP 2021
but at this point Vale is more of a brand than a racer
Yamaha, although a much better package this year, has other troubles
Mav and Frankie both openly critical of the team/bike
Frankie should, obviously, have been given the 2021 factory bike
it's wasted on Vale, he's done as a racer
and Mav should be at the pinnacle of his career
so next year? Rins gets **** canned? Mav back to Suzuki?
or HRC?
where does Frankie go? #2 factory bike?
FQ is looking fantastic
fast as always, and looks like he has it together mentally
93 who?
shout out to the RS-GP 2021
Priller
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Morbidelli has complained he's on the old bike, and Mav hasn't complained about the bike as much as his inability to get a setup. When your teammate is flying, the blame has to come from inside the box. It's hard to know where the 2021 Yamaha actually is, as Vinales has won a race (though it feels a million years ago), Rossi is obviously lost, and Morbido is on old hardware.
All three are under contract for next year, so it would take some creativity to make those changes. Morbidelli has apparently been promised a full 2022 bike as the lead rider for next year at SRT (regardless of whether Rossi retires, though that now seems inevitable), so I don't see him making a change unless he really falls out with Yamaha. He's mostly kept his mouth shut in that regard since the first few rounds, so I suspect he'll sit tight.
I can see Suzuki keeping Rins if his salary isn't crazy. He's still stupid fast on his day, and could easily win them a race or two. Mir is the clear number one, but Rins is decent for a second rider. He needs to find the same sports psychologist that Quartararo uses, and book tri-weekly visits to his couch.
As for Mav, I could see a mutual parting of ways if he doesn't find some consistency. As @Winales_2017 points out, he may need out of that team for a fresh start to save his career. Another year of similar results could mean a one way ticket to WSBK...
J_F
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I feel bad for Rins, fast and smooth
and by all accounts a top notch lad
I do hope he gets it sorted
would make a good Yamaha racer
edit: btw Priller
new Ape dealer in Wasaga Beach
I'm gonna give them a go for the big service later this month
will let you know how it goes
and by all accounts a top notch lad
I do hope he gets it sorted
would make a good Yamaha racer
edit: btw Priller
new Ape dealer in Wasaga Beach
I'm gonna give them a go for the big service later this month
will let you know how it goes
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Priller
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Just a question regarding how lap times are registered for qualifying. My understanding is that the lap time starts as soon as you cross the start line. If so , wouldn't the speed that you cross that line affect your first sector time? Since the time difference for someone who goes to Q1 can be thousands of second. One can only assume that a rider crossing the start line on the qualifying lap going slightly faster would already have an advantage. Or am I missing something. There's no way everyone is crossing the line at the same speed. Just wondering.
In other sports e.g. downhill skiing the start time is equal for all . You start from a stop position and as soon as you move the gate the time starts. So all is equal.
In other sports e.g. downhill skiing the start time is equal for all . You start from a stop position and as soon as you move the gate the time starts. So all is equal.
Priller
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It's measured start line to start line, one full lap. Crossing speed definitely affects your time, hence why it's often the third lap (second full lap after the out lap) that's fastest.
If you're asking with all the fuss lately about people (primarily Marquez, but also Zarco and others) getting tows and other shenanigans during qualifying, the normal benefit is the following rider picks someone fast to chase, then uses the slipstream to slingshot past on the front straight, thus setting a faster time just for one lap. It cuts both ways, though, as Pol Espargaro chased Marquez who was chasing Miller, and managed to pip Marquez to the second Q2 spot.
What's a bit unusual this weekend is a number of riders have said that they can't make their bikes work well on their own, but with a tow everything clicks. Zarco said this today, as did Marquez. Most seem to be struggling for grip, but I also wonder if all the aero that helps when the bike is upright may be causing problems in the corners, and getting that quiet air from a slipstream may keep the front settled.
Quartararo was churning out 1:39's in FP4, so unless someone else finds a setting or gets lucky on tires, he's gotta be favourite again. Five poles in a row on some very different tracks should be worrying for the rest of the field. On track, he's looking more and more like Lorenzo at his peak, so thank heavens off track he seems like a nice and grounded kid. No stupid flag planting or celebratory jumbo jets...
Quartararo's season reminds me a bit of Lorenzo in 2015. He still won the champion but it was close due to a lot of peculiar issues for Lorenzo.
Today, apparently FQs suit airbag went off causing him to open his leathers to get the chest shield out but couldn't zip up his suit. Would he have won the race if this had not happened? It's possible. But it is what it is. Oliveira is a solid racer who deserved the win. I wonder if other factories (namely Yamaha and honda) have their eyes on him.
Today, apparently FQs suit airbag went off causing him to open his leathers to get the chest shield out but couldn't zip up his suit. Would he have won the race if this had not happened? It's possible. But it is what it is. Oliveira is a solid racer who deserved the win. I wonder if other factories (namely Yamaha and honda) have their eyes on him.
Alex Rins Breaks Wrist In Cycling Accident, Won't Race Catalunya
Suzuki Ecstar's rider, Alex Rins, went down in a cycling training session. Following a successful operation, he may come back for German GP in Sachsenring.
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Anyone else think it's funny/coincidental the hand specialist is also named Mir?
Winales_2017
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Not as much as I'm surprised that the same surgeon that botched Marc's first humerus surgery was allowed to work on another rider's hand considering the very present fear of it happening again, not to mention most rider's superstitious nature, and having Rin's year of bad luck somehow get even worse.
Rins will be at Sachsenring:
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Still, it must be said that prior to Marc's surgery Dr. Mir was praised in the GP paddock as a miracle worker, but to be entirely honest if I were Rins I'd probably opt for someone else if I was having the year he had thus far just to try something else not so compromising and possibly detrimental to my career. Yes, I know Marc riding at Jerez 2 probably did the most damage but I'm still shocked so many are quick to look the other way so quickly despite the obvious handywork ( I mentioned my concern when it was when it was released, despite being a total laymen) done for all to see and will likely live in Motorcycle History infamy:
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Winales_2017
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I doubt it, KTM gave Binder a 3 year contract, and I'm sure given Miguel's nature he will probably want the same: remember his whole 'KTM factory rider means more than Tech3' thing in the media despite the fact that they are all identical works bikes with factory backing? That was when Zarco left and they announced bringing in Binder.
This presents a lot of issues for KTM with new talent like Acosta and Raul in terms of availability, but I think they 're likely to keep both riders on just to further develop the bike as Dani seems to be adapting well to both rider's styles. And continue to use Tech3 for rookie development. I think Binder is the more likely to deliver a championship of the two, but Miguel has his role to play, too.
If anything I think Yamaha wants Franco now that Fabio is working out, and are just waiting to get rid of Rossi 'gracefully' and let Maverick leave at this point, Honda are likely to keep Pol until he runs out his contract (he recetnly turned 30 and will be in his 8th year of GP at the end of his contract with lackluster results) and will probably get a test role after that as he is unlikely to have much success there given his progress thus far-- the HRC should favour his style on paper, very aggressive, but it's a unique beast that will probably injure him sooner than later at his phase of re-development (see Dani Pedrosa last years). I think Alex might get brought back up to works team to retain Marc for another 4 years and to help him develop the bike better during these rebuilding years as they know they're totally lost without Marc.
SRT will likely want to bring in more younger talent on a very forgiving bike, probably some Asian/Anglo-US talent from Moto2 to fit with Dorna's ambitions which will be met with a nice lofty check for their efforts.
BigEvilDoer
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KTM/Tech 3 have already signed Remi Gardner for next year.
Wouldn't surprise me if Acosta or Raul are bumped up as well. Lecuona and Petrucci are having less than stellar results so far this year.
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