2011 Honda CBR250 for wife

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RodneyBR said:
I know ABS rocks in all types of conditions, but mainly rainy conditions. So if you're not riding in rain... I hear dry payment stopping with ABS can be longer than non ABS.
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It's better in rain or dirt or painted lines or steel plates or . . .

Yes a rider that practices emergency stops on a regular basis can brake faster without ABS on good pavement, however 99% of riders will likely stop faster with ABS.

I can't see your wife whose been riding for a few months and put a few thousand km's on a TW200 outbraking the computer any time soon (nothing against your wife or her abilities, she just doesn't have the seat time in yet to have perfected threshold braking on a bike (assuming she even tries, most people don't)).
 
RodneyBR said:
I know ABS rocks in all types of conditions, but mainly rainy conditions. So if you're not riding in rain... I hear dry payment stopping with ABS can be longer than non ABS.
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Only with a very skilled rider who can instantly go to threshold braking without locking the front wheel and at the same time go right to the limit of traction just short of locking the front wheel.

Faced with a panic situation like a car turning left in front ... 99.9999% of people will either panic and do nowhere near enough braking (or rear brake only) because they're scared of locking the tire or hammer on the brake and lock the front and go down.

Under practically all real world circumstances with real world people's normal reaction, ABS is the way to go.
 
Scuba Steve said:
Ninja 250 in Green, don't worry about the carbs it is the more powerful bike and reliable.
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2008 model. The rest are all stupid with the checkered pattern at the bottom!
 
I vote Ninja 250, price is cheaper especially if you pick one up slightly used, as well even though reviews have been done on both, I much prefered the fact that the Ninja was quicker specially on highway.

Jenn

I owned a Ninja 250 and now have a Honda and still would buy the Ninja if I had it to do all over again. Also mine was rejetted which made it as though I didnt have to even warm it up, choke was hardly ever on even initial start.
 
I swore this was going to be a "swap the bike for your wife" thread.
 
RodneyBR said:
I know ABS rocks in all types of conditions, but mainly rainy conditions. So if you're not riding in rain... I hear dry payment stopping with ABS can be longer than non ABS.
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That is a scenario often quoted about cars, but not really accurate for bikes. I will tell you from experience riding the CBR250 w/ABS that you will always stop quicker with the ABS regardless of conditions. The reason is that the ABS virtually eliminates the need for any sort of finesse in emergency braking on a bike. You can grab the lever with all your strength and just hold on. The bike will stop with no drama. If you did that without ABS you'd be sailing over the bars doing your best superman impersonation.

It's for this reason that I'm not a fan of teaching on an ABS equipped bike. With the ABS there is no need to learn proper threshold braking, the bike does it for you. Also, a new rider getting used to the ABS in a training scenario would be at risk transferring to a non-ABS bike.

For the street however, I think ABS is great and could very well be a life saver.

But I'd still pick the Ninja over the CBR. I just like it better :)
 
I dunno know i'm sitting on both sides of the fence regarding ABS.

On the one side sure it's a safety feature, but on the other side it's like all the gadgets on new cars, it gives people a false sense of security.

If someone's riding habits are causing the ABS system to kick in more than a couple of times a year..........
 
Englishj said:
I dunno know i'm sitting on both sides of the fence regarding ABS.

On the one side sure it's a safety feature, but on the other side it's like all the gadgets on new cars, it gives people a false sense of security.

If someone's riding habits are causing the ABS system to kick in more than a couple of times a year..........
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J, I know how you feel but after spending some time on the lot beating on the CBR250's ABS I have to say that in the long run bikes will all end up with it just like cars. There's just no getting around the fact that it will stop you faster and safer. It takes skill and balls to stop a bike as quickly as possible without doing an endo or dropping it and most riders just never spend the time practicing it to get to the level where they could compete with the computer.

I watched a fellow instructor on the CBR250 trying to test its limits by stopping from 60km/hr in a 2inch deep puddle and only grabbing the front brake for all he was worth, no finesse, no skill, just pulling the lever as hard as he could. The CBR came to a very quick, perfectly straight stop with no drama at all. The back wheel came off the ground by a couple of inches for just a fraction of a second, and the rider could hardly tell that had even happened.

If Kawi would put FI and ABS on the little ninja I think you'd have a perfect commuter bike.
 
unless you are forced to or you really love the bike, dont buy new bikes is stupid to do so. dealer takes thousands for profit if you like to get ripped off thats fine but get a used bike is a much better value if price is a factor. when you get to re-sell it you dont lose as much or at all. be a smarter buyer
 
I agree, that's why I'm not buying new, but it's like new. I found one from a dealer with 2000KM on it :) So I'm saving an easy 1g, which is a fair amount for an inexpensive bike.

elton_t said:
unless you are forced to or you really love the bike, dont buy new bikes is stupid to do so. dealer takes thousands for profit if you like to get ripped off thats fine but get a used bike is a much better value if price is a factor. when you get to re-sell it you dont lose as much or at all. be a smarter buyer
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Is this for real, the new Yamaha YZF-250 R4...

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