Some sports are more dangerous than others. Prayers to the family.
The kid was trained by Keith Code since he was on a pocket bike.
The kid was trained by Keith Code since he was on a pocket bike.
12 Year old Motorcycle racer killed
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A bicycle was my primary form of transportation from about 10 years old, and I grew up within the GTA. I figure that's gotta be more dangerous. How old before you let a kid ride a bike to their friend's house unsupervised?
Children drown every single day. They get paralyzed in minor league hockey. They fall off skateboards and are put into comas.
All those parents must not love their children either. We should outlaw tobaggans, pools, beaches, bicycles, skateboards, hockey, skiing, snowboards.......how about we just outlaw fun and athletics altogether?
I race with kids 12-16 yrs old, who ride rings around me, and I don't consider myself a novice after 29 yrs of riding. SHould the obvious natural talent of those kids go un-nurtured for fear of what MAY happen? No olymipic athlete ever would have amounted to anything if they had to wait till they were 18 before engaging in dangerous activities. I have shared endurance rides with Seth from Uber Racing, when he was just 14 yrs old......The kid is just plain fast, and has years more to improve his riding as well. This weekend he will be racing in WERA, and I will be cheering him on. As I will be rooting for him every WERA, SOAR and AMA round that he plans to contest. These kids are the future of the sport I love. I only wish I had the resources and committment to start 25 yrs earlier.
It's tragic and sad what happened to this boy. RIP Iceman. Ride on.
All those parents must not love their children either. We should outlaw tobaggans, pools, beaches, bicycles, skateboards, hockey, skiing, snowboards.......how about we just outlaw fun and athletics altogether?
I race with kids 12-16 yrs old, who ride rings around me, and I don't consider myself a novice after 29 yrs of riding. SHould the obvious natural talent of those kids go un-nurtured for fear of what MAY happen? No olymipic athlete ever would have amounted to anything if they had to wait till they were 18 before engaging in dangerous activities. I have shared endurance rides with Seth from Uber Racing, when he was just 14 yrs old......The kid is just plain fast, and has years more to improve his riding as well. This weekend he will be racing in WERA, and I will be cheering him on. As I will be rooting for him every WERA, SOAR and AMA round that he plans to contest. These kids are the future of the sport I love. I only wish I had the resources and committment to start 25 yrs earlier.
It's tragic and sad what happened to this boy. RIP Iceman. Ride on.
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Dave L
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i am sorry to hear of the family's loss - it is tragic.
My son is 11 and I did have him sit on a dirt bike a couple of weeks ago. I would have no problem with him riding and potentially racing if his skills and attitude were where they needed to be.
I have seen him launch straight over the bars in a mountain bike race, he was wearing a helmet but a freak accident could have broken his neck. We whitewater kayak where potentially he could drown. My daughter broke her arm falling off her bike, I bought her a new bike when the cast came off and she was hesitant but happy to be riding again.
At the end of the day you try to minimize risk but "stuff" can happen - thats life - no one makes it out alive.
My son is 11 and I did have him sit on a dirt bike a couple of weeks ago. I would have no problem with him riding and potentially racing if his skills and attitude were where they needed to be.
I have seen him launch straight over the bars in a mountain bike race, he was wearing a helmet but a freak accident could have broken his neck. We whitewater kayak where potentially he could drown. My daughter broke her arm falling off her bike, I bought her a new bike when the cast came off and she was hesitant but happy to be riding again.
At the end of the day you try to minimize risk but "stuff" can happen - thats life - no one makes it out alive.
noob_in_mid_age
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Corrected it for you......I agree with the fact that you need to protect your kids by teaching them to do things safely (proper protection, technique etc), not shelter them. If they fall, let them get up on their own and you'll be surprised that they will go right back to what they were doing. If parents rush out and pick them up and make a big deal about the fall then we instill fear into them. Kids will pick up on adults' reaction and they will become sheltered kids who will quit every activity at the first instance that they encounter a dangerous situation.
I sheltered my first child but I learned from my mistake and behave different with my second. I am having a difficult time getting my first to try new activities.
Let kids be kids, when I was young i got into all sorts of mischief but guess what, I have made it to 47 without any injuries.
My condolences to the family of the young man.
webb70
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My condolences to the Family.....
My (now 15yo) Son comes with me to most track days and last year for his 15th birthday I signed him up to Racer5 "Intro to Track" on a CBR125. He did the course a week before his birthday and loved it. He does want a street bike but knows he can't get one till he is 25 (mine and his mothers rules). He will do many more track-days till then, but we want him to have 4-wheel experience on the street before we let him on the roads with only 2 wheels.
He loves bikes and wants to race his MX bike this fall after taking an MX school this spring and practicing all summer.
He started riding dirtbikes at 2-years and 9-months, but has never wanted to race. Last year he said he wants to really learn/practice good habits, and give racing a try.
I have never pushed him to ride but I do encourage it, and always insist on him wearing his full gear whenever he does. But we both understand the risks involved....
My (now 15yo) Son comes with me to most track days and last year for his 15th birthday I signed him up to Racer5 "Intro to Track" on a CBR125. He did the course a week before his birthday and loved it. He does want a street bike but knows he can't get one till he is 25 (mine and his mothers rules). He will do many more track-days till then, but we want him to have 4-wheel experience on the street before we let him on the roads with only 2 wheels.
He loves bikes and wants to race his MX bike this fall after taking an MX school this spring and practicing all summer.
He started riding dirtbikes at 2-years and 9-months, but has never wanted to race. Last year he said he wants to really learn/practice good habits, and give racing a try.
I have never pushed him to ride but I do encourage it, and always insist on him wearing his full gear whenever he does. But we both understand the risks involved....
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Check out the Leno Zecca motocross camp. If I were to relive any of my childhood it would be those weeks I spent there.
i agree 100%.......Rip iceman.
espro
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You're going to try to tell your adult son what he can/cannot do at 25?
bunmanchi
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ever think that the kid got into it because the parents were into it and your own reactions are the same ?
Would you let your own 12 yr old kid ride motorcycles if you didnt ?
just curious, If all you people that say what the kid was doing wasnt dangerous would let your own kids do it , ( if you didnt ride )
I ride. I will never take my kids on a ride. Maybe when they are 16, and i feel they are old enough to understand the risks invovled with riding a motorcycle.
I dont play fastball, i dont skateboard,I dont play hockey I dont ski or snowboard. But i do know that Racing a motorcycle is more dangerous than pretty much any other sport you could get your kid involved in, and to suggest its not is moronic.
Im sure the parents sleep better knowing this kid lived more in his 12 years becasue of this and died doing what he loved ( that one made me lol )
I'd rather have my kid alive and hating me for not letting them race MC's . but hey, I hate my kids.
Would you let your own 12 yr old kid ride motorcycles if you didnt ?
just curious, If all you people that say what the kid was doing wasnt dangerous would let your own kids do it , ( if you didnt ride )
I ride. I will never take my kids on a ride. Maybe when they are 16, and i feel they are old enough to understand the risks invovled with riding a motorcycle.
I dont play fastball, i dont skateboard,I dont play hockey I dont ski or snowboard. But i do know that Racing a motorcycle is more dangerous than pretty much any other sport you could get your kid involved in, and to suggest its not is moronic.
Im sure the parents sleep better knowing this kid lived more in his 12 years becasue of this and died doing what he loved ( that one made me lol )
I'd rather have my kid alive and hating me for not letting them race MC's . but hey, I hate my kids.
My sincerest sympathies to the family and friends.
I have kids, I cannot fathom the loss of a child as the parent. Several friends have suffered the loss of a child and brother at young age and I have grieved with them. Its horrible.
No parent puts their kid into an activity expecting the outcome to be fatal. My friends that lost children lost had it happen it absolute freak events, snow fort caved in and suffocated the child, another got hypathermic at an overnite campout, stuff happens.
My kids both ski, mountain bike, son rock climbs, we scuba as a family and they have raced sailboats with me. We take every precaution and know there is risk in any sport, we approach it as safely as we can. My job as Dad is to be sure the risk is managed as best I can.
To say a child was killed doing what they loved is about as cliche as it gets. But the family is in shock and grief so what else are they supposed to say? I hope they stay a family and eventually come to terms with this tragedy.
I have kids, I cannot fathom the loss of a child as the parent. Several friends have suffered the loss of a child and brother at young age and I have grieved with them. Its horrible.
No parent puts their kid into an activity expecting the outcome to be fatal. My friends that lost children lost had it happen it absolute freak events, snow fort caved in and suffocated the child, another got hypathermic at an overnite campout, stuff happens.
My kids both ski, mountain bike, son rock climbs, we scuba as a family and they have raced sailboats with me. We take every precaution and know there is risk in any sport, we approach it as safely as we can. My job as Dad is to be sure the risk is managed as best I can.
To say a child was killed doing what they loved is about as cliche as it gets. But the family is in shock and grief so what else are they supposed to say? I hope they stay a family and eventually come to terms with this tragedy.
ever think that the kid got into it because the parents were into it and your own reactions are the same ?
Would you let your own 12 yr old kid ride motorcycles if you didnt ?
just curious, If all you people that say what the kid was doing wasnt dangerous would let your own kids do it , ( if you didnt ride )
I ride. I will never take my kids on a ride. Maybe when they are 16, and i feel they are old enough to understand the risks invovled with riding a motorcycle.
I dont play fastball, i dont skateboard,I dont play hockey I dont ski or snowboard. But i do know that Racing a motorcycle is more dangerous than pretty much any other sport you could get your kid involved in, and to suggest its not is moronic.
Im sure the parents sleep better knowing this kid lived more in his 12 years becasue of this and died doing what he loved ( that one made me lol )
I'd rather have my kid alive and hating me for not letting them race MC's . but hey, I hate my kids.
You've gotta be trolling with this post.
You claim to have kids, but I would hazard to guess they are very young. My kids want to do ANYTHING that I do, so of course my kids gravitate towards riding. The same would be true for whatever "thing" I was into.
How many kids have died racing motorcycles? Or how many have died playing organized sports? I think you truly are the moronic one with that little gem of a comment you made.
Life is risky and as a parent your sole job is to produce a productive member of society. Are you raising kids or adults? Because I'm raising adults.
I'm not telling anyone how to raise their kids but a little common sense will go a long way.
bunmanchi
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I dont understand what part you think is trolling.
which comment do you think was wrong ? the one suggesting that MC racing was more dangerous than the other sports ?
as to what I am raising, Im raising children, that would love to see become adults.
hope your kid doesnt like base jumping, or bull riding.
I can understand ppl's choice not to have their kids ride a bike at the track. But a two up ride with your kid is not unsafe in any means.
It could have something to do with i feel just as safe on my bike as i do driving a car, i dunno just don't feel i'm risk taking by doing it.
You are free to do as you wish, as you have the right as a parent. Just letting you know, my kid who really isn't a rider at heart or a two wheel fan used to like riding on the back of my bike when he was younger.
bunmanchi
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Im not saying taking your kid out for a 2up is bad. not at all. I dont think people that take their kids out are bad for doing so..
For me, I dont think that I dont want to take the risk of having my kid on the back of my bike.
I accept the chances i take on the road, And Im ok with that.I think we all are. But when or If i take a passenger it now my responsiblity to keep them from harms way, especially if one happens to be one of my daughters.
I honestly dont think i could live with myself if one were seriously injured, or even killed while riding with me.
will they be mad about it, Maybe ? but again, I'd rather have them alive and mad, than happy and dead. lol
bunmanchi
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I think that a child hanging on to the driver is a bit more dangerous. If they let go, or lose their balance, its all over for them.
WE were talking about 12 yrs old, and presumably younger, right ?
as far as me taking a chance of leaving them fatherless. I never said i was the greatest father to begin with. LOL Im a better provider
in all seriousness, i think adults on bikes, are safer than children on bikes. im not here to changes peoples minds, but this is how i see it
ever think that the kid got into it because the parents were into it and your own reactions are the same ?
Would you let your own 12 yr old kid ride motorcycles if you didnt ?
just curious, If all you people that say what the kid was doing wasnt dangerous would let your own kids do it , ( if you didnt ride )
I ride. I will never take my kids on a ride. Maybe when they are 16, and i feel they are old enough to understand the risks invovled with riding a motorcycle.
I dont play fastball, i dont skateboard,I dont play hockey I dont ski or snowboard. But i do know that Racing a motorcycle is more dangerous than pretty much any other sport you could get your kid involved in, and to suggest its not is moronic.
Im sure the parents sleep better knowing this kid lived more in his 12 years becasue of this and died doing what he loved ( that one made me lol )
I'd rather have my kid alive and hating me for not letting them race MC's . but hey, I hate my kids.
So what DO you do, play checkers?
