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I wouldn't like it for myself. My vehicles are kept in pristine condition so it would only be an annoyance to me personally.

I did all that as a teenager. All in a single day.

I've never seen that before and I enjoyed it. You need a nap mister cranky.

It's dramatic due to exasperation, I've seen this too many times. This "mechanic" who thinks passenger hand grips are a safety item is a complete idiot. I hate it when people get jerked around by fools like this.

I realize that, but why stop there? A 250 is huge compared to a moped, so that should be where we all start. I am NOT saying a 250 is a bad bike especially to start on, but the only difference I could tell from a 250Ltd and a Savage was that the Savage had a lower seat height and less...

What does this "ridding" word you keep using actually mean?

How much do you charge for that? I would like to find out what is good for me. :)

For gods sake, you don't need them.

Why? So you can pay more and get less?

You ever ride a 650 cruiser? They are most certainly beginner bikes if you need to start on a cruiser. Of course a 250 is easier being lighter, but the 650 is gutless enough to keep you out of trouble. And if you need both, the 650 Savage gives you all the swagger of having a 650 with all the...

It has a nice enough engine, and it's light. BUT.....................it's also very low and VERY cramped for a big guy. I'm 5'10 with a long inseam and I was fairly squished on it. Fun ride though, especially for a beginner.

Couldn't see that coming, LOL.

It's for real every time. And then they close.

I've had seat time on a bolt, what do you want to know?

Your squirrely issue is a fuel injection issue. The 950 bolt has the same incremental throttle jack effect. The 900 Vulcan doesn't due to a more refined EFI paired with effective secondary throttle body butterflies. My V2K has FAR more torque than any bike mentioned and it's SMOOTH on...

Excellent thread, thanks for doing this.

Yep, learn to ride on this inexpensive bike and get a newer one next year. If you must have a newer and bigger bike the Vulcan 900 is a gem.

Or best offer people. Tired of it taking up space.

I used to ride 365 days a year for my job. The coldest days were around -30 or whatever the lowest low was between 1993 and 1997. Sidecar equipped bikes were an option which was used on icy roads or heavy snowfalls. Not horrible wearing full snowmobile gear. Watching a sidecar equipped bike...

A report of the crashes on zero degree pavement? LOL