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  1. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    Difference is, at a club, or airport, there are multiple witnesses.. For a DUI, if you refuse the breathalyzer, you are charged criminally. However if you are innocent.. simply take the breathalyzer, and you are exonerated (unless you're in the 'OPP discretion zone' between 0.05 and 0.08, that...
  2. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    Pardon - I assumed that the beating the officer gave you would result in serious injury, I guess he would only lightly rough you up then... my apologies on imagining the wrong hypothetical scenario...
  3. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    You raise a good point, I hadn't really thought about that. As it turns out the officer is 'under investigation' and was suspended with pay, that's the latest I can find about it. Still, the reason the SIU exists is that the public does not, in general, trust the police to police themselves. I...
  4. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    It's far, far less likely that an investigation would occur than an accusation of police brutality. There is no mandatory SIU involvement. Furthermore, it's far less likely that any investigation like that would be taken seriously. Unfortunately I cannot find the article, perhaps someone else...
  5. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    Alright, I realize this is nearing dead horse status, but I'm going to apply some of this 'common sense' you keep speaking of. In specific, I will use your example. Even if false accusation of traffic violations were as uncommon as random police brutality (which is not even close to true, but...
  6. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    ehh.. there's a number of reasons this is a bad idea... but here's a few things to think about: - the cop has now seen you up close and mostly stationary, knows your bike make/model, your approximate height/weight, a lot of things much more accurately than if you were never that close - you're...
  7. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    I have no sympathy for someone who is actually being a ****** getting caught and then coming to complain about that, we agree there. That said, there is no question that officers do occasionally pull people over and lay charges that are completely false and unfair. With the majority of tickets...
  8. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    I don't disagree with the fact that you must obey a law in order not to break it and suffer the consequences. That is logical, borderline tautological. That doesn't instantly mean that it's an appropriate law, nor that violating HTA 172 is the equivalent of, in jc100's words.. "acting like an...
  9. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    If your assumption is that the law is perfect and enforced correctly in every situation then you need to check your reality level. I would assert that: 1) HTA 172 is poorly and vaguely worded, and 2) The act of violating HTA 172 as written does not necessarily mean the actions you are...
  10. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    Do you actually believe this? Or have you never met anyone 40,50,60 who talks about "the good old days" when they could run from cops in their cars and even if they got caught the penalty was barely anything compared to nowadays? By the way, enforcement has only gotten stricter, enforcement...
  11. jotapeh

    Running from police.

    Yeah, I know at least one friend of mine who says he will not stop if he sees sirens. In his mind, he's going to court anyway. And I know of at least one time he has outrun the police (however on a snowmobile, not a motorcycle.) Personally.. even if I got caught for a 172.. I would pull over...
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