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Thanks, I do fully understand the differeance in thoughts regarding guns and laws and Forums. Making the transition sometimes is difficult as I am not the "Politically Correct" type of person and as I mentioned earlier it was one of the things I really liked about my vivists to Toronto this...

Sorry, I do not mean to come across as thin skinned, The Case "in Florida" was spun by the media from Day one, when the media left out all the facts that in any way supported the shooter, listed the kid as 12 years old and used a school picture from when he was 12. The Media also cut out the...

um, maybe you did not read the same article I did? yes the cop was a tool for "laying it down" no argument there. But I did not see any mention of a school zone? and school zone speed limits apply during hours children are present. I also noticed the kid was 6 years old, It was 10:00 P.M. and...

I want a link to the original thread so I can read it!

One thing I noticed visiting Toronto this summer on my trips was that people are a lot less concerned with being "politically correct" You can say things and not have your words taken out of cotext and people try to make you out to be a hate filled racist. The op was just stating a fact, nothing...

Right! Ow wait, if I remember correctly the shooter was not a white guy and he was being beaten before he shot. Guess you missed that part.

LMAO Yes, lets get this thread back on course, or course there are guns involved in the story so it was easy to get on a tangent, Sorry I contributed to that tangent.

No Offence, But you have the most powerful tool in the world at your finger tips, read the entire article. Then instead of just dismissing what I am saying bring some evidence of the reverse.

I can agree that Gun ownership is not the only factor, but it is the big one. See the following, Tell me something else changes besides the law and gun ownership? KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires...

Look at Switzerland, the country with no standing military, the highest gun ownership per capita in the world and almost everyone is trained to shoot. Lowest crime rate. Are you going to try to do a robbery when you know every house is armed and they all know how to shoot?

Taken from Guns Vs. Crime by Jeremy D. Blanks, Ph.D. Those states that have enacted concealed carry measures have seen their crime rates immediately fall and continue to do so at rates in most cases faster than the national average. One of the best examples is Florida. Prior to their enactment...

Not true, Look at countried where Everyone is trained to use firearms or everyone has military experiance and then look at countries where firearms are prohibited and you will see that murder and crimes are lower where people are all trained VS where they are prohibited.

Define "Trained Professional"? Does being Paid make you a trained professional? Almost everyone I know has guns (Most not hand guns) but all are trained and know how to shoot and use the guns and practice. Every town here has a rod and gun club, and many people I work with are on shooting teams...

Completely agree, Way to many things happened, and any one of which could have prevented this. 3. If he had enought time to "Lay it down" he had enough time to apply the brakes and or swerve. If he did not feel he could do either of those things than I contend that he needed some training, or...

1. Kid should not have been in the Street 2. Kid should have been supervised. 3. Rider should learn to ride a bike a. Rubber on the pavement can stop much shorter than the metal of the bike and the time it takes to Lay-it-down could have been used to slow or stop b. If no time to brake he...

Take it for what it's worth, it is a WHOLE lot easier working on any of my "Older" bikes than my newer ones. I need a special computer to work on my BMW K1200RS, the 2006 FZ1 is Fuel injected and it's tough to get to anything on it. So much plastic makes working on any of them difficult as well...

Could not do it here when I did it either, but like the old saying goes, where ther is a will there is a way.

Maybe I dont get it, but if you have listed Motorcycle Speed, Should the Bottom then Read "Rider Skill" not Speed, and then we need the curve built in in both fashions as a skilled rider on a slow bike would be adhead of Peggy, and a not skilled rider on a fast bike would be a ding Dong. So the...

I believe they are ilegal in Ontario, But I am across the boarder in New York and they are legal here. How about this vid? A vmax Set up for some ice fun! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZq18irDRcc

I found a good sight for poeple who ride all the time including the extremes. I have been giving some thought to studding a set of tires and ridingo one of the bikes all winter since I have a short commute to work, might be an option. http://www.yearroundriders.com/ Check out the tire studding...