Are these things really worth the money?
What are some of the benefits from having one on your bike
What are some of the benefits from having one on your bike
Quick Shifter
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Chris-CJ
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IMO, depends on your riding style.
Had ridden the BMW S1000 equipped with a QS and was impressed by the way it improved rideability, acceleration times and to take corners.
My current bike does not have a QS, but with timing the engine speed and throttle, I can do a clutch-less shift, it is a poor man's substitute for a QS!
Yes, if I could set up a GoFundMe for a QS, I'd totally get one.
What bike are you planning to put the QS on?
Had ridden the BMW S1000 equipped with a QS and was impressed by the way it improved rideability, acceleration times and to take corners.
My current bike does not have a QS, but with timing the engine speed and throttle, I can do a clutch-less shift, it is a poor man's substitute for a QS!
Yes, if I could set up a GoFundMe for a QS, I'd totally get one.
What bike are you planning to put the QS on?
Is it necessary? No. But it is pretty cool. Especially the auto blipper, I find that more useful than using it for upshifts, since you can upshift without a clutch anyways. It's very convenient to not have to worry about using the clutch and rev matching your downshifts if you don't feel like it.
I'd say I use it for upshifts 90% of the time and for downshifts pretty much every time. Most bikes (mine at least) deactivate the QS whenever it detects the clutch is pulled, so you don't have to worry about turning it off or on whenever you don't feel like using it, though you can completely deactivate it in the bike's settings if you desire.
I honestly wouldn't buy a bike without one now. Going up and down the gears without the clutch is like witchcraft at first and makes you feel like a motogp rider. For me at least, it definitely adds to the riding experience.
I'd say I use it for upshifts 90% of the time and for downshifts pretty much every time. Most bikes (mine at least) deactivate the QS whenever it detects the clutch is pulled, so you don't have to worry about turning it off or on whenever you don't feel like using it, though you can completely deactivate it in the bike's settings if you desire.
I honestly wouldn't buy a bike without one now. Going up and down the gears without the clutch is like witchcraft at first and makes you feel like a motogp rider. For me at least, it definitely adds to the riding experience.
Just want to add on to the previous responses that I couldn't care less for one... in Canada. Or maybe specifically, here in Ontario.
I've had a bike with one. Never used the thing. I don't care to unlearn what's already muscle memory, to learn to something new on one of my motorcycles, that isn't going to work on the other 80% of my motorcycles.
And then I go to Italy... where everything stops being very straight and very flat. Everything starts being very hilly and very curvy. Then all of a sudden I find myself wishing my 14 year old BMW G650GS had a quick shifter.
As soon as I'm back in Canada, on my other 14 year old BMW G650GS, I couldn't care less for a quickshifter again... I wouldn't benefit from one here.
I've had a bike with one. Never used the thing. I don't care to unlearn what's already muscle memory, to learn to something new on one of my motorcycles, that isn't going to work on the other 80% of my motorcycles.
And then I go to Italy... where everything stops being very straight and very flat. Everything starts being very hilly and very curvy. Then all of a sudden I find myself wishing my 14 year old BMW G650GS had a quick shifter.
As soon as I'm back in Canada, on my other 14 year old BMW G650GS, I couldn't care less for a quickshifter again... I wouldn't benefit from one here.
. Lower lap times. And most add on ones suck. Are you referring to a QS or a bidirectional QS
What’s the difference?
The bi does both, up and down shift.
Also depends on the bike, my Gixxer you can only run upshifts.
For the street i have no desire for a QS, racing applications it does make a small difference in lower laps time.
Quickshift-down has sometimes been called an auto-blipper, because it has to rev-match in order to do this smoothly.
I have an aftermarket QS, upshift only, on my race bike, because that's the only way to do it on that bike. All it does is cut spark for a preset number of milliseconds. It works well when upshifting at high revs and full throttle, which is where it's intended. If you try to use it at part throttle or lower revs (street riding), it's a driveability mess. Doesn't matter in that application.
I've ridden a BMW S1000RR on the track, quickshifter up and down, and it's awesome. But that system is OEM, and knows the gear position, revs, throttle position, whether you're using the clutch lever, etc.
POWERMAN
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I loved doing that on my Z650. I didnt realize until later that I could also use it do downshift lol.
It was a lot more harder to get the timing and RPM right with the quick downshift vs the upshift though.
Marketable.
It honestly really annoys me because there's a cost to that feature, and it's edging out other features I would rather have. Like the ZX-4RR has a quickshifter but not any of kind of damping adjustment on the front forks. The ZX-4R doesn't even have preload adjustment on the forks, it's a premium feature!
Really? I've never encountered an issue with the downshift...are you closing the throttle completely before shifting?
4R doesn't come with QS so you can blame something else
But really it's the motor that's driving the price on that bike. Twice the price of a ninja 400 almost.
In the dirt world, the auto-blipper can be nice because it doesn't upset the chassis when you downshift, thus preserving traction - very valuable when downshifting while entering a corner or going down a steep hill.
Having said that, nothing beats the satisfaction of a perfectly timed rev-matched downshift, especially one that's done in two gears or more down. And that holds true whether on a bike or car: 6-2 heel-toe rev-matched downshift into a corner is pure bliss!
Having said that, nothing beats the satisfaction of a perfectly timed rev-matched downshift, especially one that's done in two gears or more down. And that holds true whether on a bike or car: 6-2 heel-toe rev-matched downshift into a corner is pure bliss!
POWERMAN
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Pretty sure it was a skill issue on my part more than anything!
The OEM implementations that I've used, are pretty good.
A lot of these trick features become almost free once the manufacturer has made the jump to drive-by-wire throttle control, ABS, and on-board network communication between control modules. Quickshifter adds one strain-gauge sensor on the shift rod and some software. Full traction control adds the IMU sensor and some software. Cruise control requires some operator-interface switches and some software. Adaptive cruise control (Multistrada has this) adds the distance sensors and more software.
