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TMP vs. SMP

r3r3r3 said:
its not how big it is, its how you use it. Should I have been one of the people constantly losing it and making zero progress on a 600/1000 because they were in over their head?

A gong show would be showing up to a race with zero track experience. The issue is the organizer not managing their trackday not my riding ability - there was none of these problems at the other TMP trackday run by GWB.

Or were you just one of the guys on a 600/1000's I was out cornering and braking all day?
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I think you are taking what i am saying in the wrong context, or perhaps i worded it not correctly.

Doing track days at Cayuga on a small bike will be a hit or miss experience, doesn't matter who is running the TD's.

You'll do fine going to SOAR or RACE even with very little track exp, you'll do the school race in the right class and learn from folks and other riders that are serious about safety and your well being.
 
Jayv said:
I think you are taking what i am saying in the wrong context, or perhaps i worded it not correctly.

Doing track days at Cayuga on a small bike will be a hit or miss experience, doesn't matter who is running the TD's.

You'll do fine going to SOAR or RACE even with very little track exp, you'll do the school race in the right class and learn from folks and other riders that are serious about safety and your well being.
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Came off a little abrasive but I appreciate your opinion. None of my issues were on the straights or related to a lack of power - i realize its a small bike and i'm not going to out drag a 600+. I stuck to the wall and let the big bikes go by if they wanted. If anything a small light bike suits the infield at TMP well, its not like its the big track at Mosport. The issues came from overconfident riders trying to make Marc Marquez-esque corner passes (all in the infield). As mentioned by other riders (on bigger bikes as well) the **** show was the complete lack of flagging / enforcement. GWB ran a great trackday two weeks prior at the same location and did not tolerate any aggression / corner passing in the beginner group. Definitely "hit or miss" but this boils down to the organizer not people's choice of ride. I have a hard time believing personal training is going to make up for terrible riders pushing well beyond their limit acting like its MotoGP and disregarding the safety of everyone around them. This only gets compounded when you have a wild west organizer turning a blind eye.

I will be signing up for Racer5 in the fall/spring '21. However I don't think there is any shame in going to a few beginner level track days to see if its for you before spending the $1200+/per weekend on a school - So long as you have self control and are introspective enough to know your limits/ability. The select few who were making bad choices are the ones who should have been in a classroom long before being allowed on a track.
 
r3r3r3 said:
Came off a little abrasive but I appreciate your opinion. None of my issues were on the straights or related to a lack of power - i realize its a small bike and i'm not going to out drag a 600+. I stuck to the wall and let the big bikes go by if they wanted. If anything a small light bike suits the infield at TMP well, its not like its the big track at Mosport. The issues came from overconfident riders trying to make Marc Marquez-esque corner passes (all in the infield). As mentioned by other riders (on bigger bikes as well) the **** show was the complete lack of flagging / enforcement. GWB ran a great trackday two weeks prior at the same location and did not tolerate any aggression / corner passing in the beginner group. Definitely "hit or miss" but this boils down to the organizer not people's choice of ride. I have a hard time believing personal training is going to make up for terrible riders pushing well beyond their limit acting like its MotoGP and disregarding the safety of everyone around them. This only gets compounded when you have a wild west organizer turning a blind eye.

I will be signing up for Racer5 in the fall/spring '21. However I don't think there is any shame in going to a few beginner level track days to see if its for you before spending the $1200+/per weekend on a school - So long as you have self control and are introspective enough to know your limits/ability. The select few who were making bad choices are the ones who should have been in a classroom long before being allowed on a track.
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Well, if anything, that reinforces the general opinion of TMP. After the car S*&^*&show earlier this year, the social media flogging and then TMP saying that no bad behaviour at all would be tolerated, within a month they are back to their modus operandi. Pretend you are in GTA and hope you make it out alive.
 
r3r3r3 said:
Came off a little abrasive but I appreciate your opinion. None of my issues were on the straights or related to a lack of power - i realize its a small bike and i'm not going to out drag a 600+. I stuck to the wall and let the big bikes go by if they wanted. If anything a small light bike suits the infield at TMP well, its not like its the big track at Mosport. The issues came from overconfident riders trying to make Marc Marquez-esque corner passes (all in the infield). As mentioned by other riders (on bigger bikes as well) the **** show was the complete lack of flagging / enforcement. GWB ran a great trackday two weeks prior at the same location and did not tolerate any aggression / corner passing in the beginner group. Definitely "hit or miss" but this boils down to the organizer not people's choice of ride. I have a hard time believing personal training is going to make up for terrible riders pushing well beyond their limit acting like its MotoGP and disregarding the safety of everyone around them. This only gets compounded when you have a wild west organizer turning a blind eye.

I will be signing up for Racer5 in the fall/spring '21. However I don't think there is any shame in going to a few beginner level track days to see if its for you before spending the $1200+/per weekend on a school - So long as you have self control and are introspective enough to know your limits/ability. The select few who were making bad choices are the ones who should have been in a classroom long before being allowed on a track.
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The riders at tmp that do stupid stuff still think ramping is fun.
 
Did my first track day (outside of a school) at Shannonville Rider's Choice on Friday - green group. Was really happy with it all. First session for newbies was follow the leader to get to know the track and lines a bit. Track etiquette was excellent in the group - not a single incident I can recall that was dangerous or in violation of the rules all day. Bikes in green group ranged from CBR250R to RSV4 (!). Overall just a good time out on track - quite the opposite of what's been described in this thread for TMP. Biggest danger was probably dehydration on such a sweltering hot day!
 
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